Is his secret second marriage as Muslim to a Filipina Muslim girl valid in Philippines?
Assalam o Alaikum
I got married to my husband back in 2001 in the Philippines. In 2004, my husband went to Saudi Arabia for work where he converted to Islam in 2008 and became Muslim. He married a Filipina Muslim girl in Islamic court in Riyadh. He was able to get CENOMAR [certificate of no marriage record issued by National Statistics Office (NSO) in Philippines] in the Philippines. However, our marriage is registered at NSO (National Statistics Office) and I was able to secure our marriage certificate. All his documents show him as single and he didn’t declare that he is married.
My question is; is their marriage valid in the Philippines since they are Muslims? Our marriage is not declared Annuled yet. Another question that I have is that; does he has any liabilities in the civil law?
-angryblonde
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Dear Sister,
If you find a Philippine Citizen here, who can give expert advise then Masha Allah, it would be very good.
But better option is to ask legal experts in these matters.
If your husband has married another woman for a truthful purpose to please God, it is good, and you should also co-operate with him and learn more about Islam and seek happiness and contentment with what Allah gives you.
I hope Allah brings happiness and stability in your lives and we pray for a better aakhirah (Hereafter) for all those who turn towards Allah.
May Allah help you get the correct advice soon.
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"Angry blonde", wa alaykum as-salam,
I'm sorry, we cannot advise you in this matter. You need to consult a lawyer or attorney in the Philippines.
Wael
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
Sir, i am muslim from other country. I want to marry a Filipina. She is already married, when she was christian in her country. Now she has converted to islam. Her husband already married to another Filpina. He also has some children from his second wife.
I want to ask you that is she able to marry with me? How about the her first marriage.
Your advice can help me alot.
Asif
Asif, she should first get a legal divorce in her own country, to prevent any problems. If you need any further advice, please log in and write your question as a separate post. Thank you. - Wael, IslamicAnswers.com Editor
The islamic point of view regarding this is her marriage with the non muslim husband is authomatically anulled/cancelled if he did'nt convert to islam after her iddah (waiting period) is over. The iddah last for 3 months immediately after her converting to islam.. But if you need more info, do as wael suggested.
Assallamalaykum,,,
Im converted already last february 19,2016
Married po ako sa pinas,but last june 2015 nag decide akong maki pag hiwalay nang tuluyan sa aking mister,.
kung sakali po bang mag kakaroon ako ng chance na may mag ppkasal sakin dito na egyptian eh maari???
Gayung di ako annuld sa aking dating asawa???
hi i have a muslim boyfriend and we want to get married i juts want to ask i want to convert my self in to muslim and our problem is im married back home in the philippines and we are already sepreated for a years and my x husband knows that i have a partner now and he has also has a partner bioth parties are happy now ? can i marry my bf if the situation is like this
Salam Brother,
Good News !
Just to update you that as soon as she accepeted Islam, her Nikah to a non Muslim is "Fasid" (Vanished), she can marry to any Muslim and he can do Nikah with her, the only condition that he needs to pass her 3-4 menstrual periods before making Nikah, You just need to confirm the Menstrual time length from any Masjid Imam.
May ALLAH guide us towards the Right Track !
After this Period You can do Nikah with her.
All the Best
Regards
Muslim Brother
Assalama Alaikom brother and sister. Im Reem a filipina 31 yrs old who was converted into islam for more than 2 years now in Dubai.
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I am too much thankful to you for guiding me and every ove who contacting you. This is a big service to all the mulims and related to them. Again thanks all team of ZAWAJ.
Assalam Alaikum, I am a Filipina Christian and married to a muslim in Phils. Now we are living in Syria his country with one son. Me and my husband have irreconcilable differences and I am not happy with him. What should I do to get divorce with him? Please I need advice on this sensitive issue. I really wanna have divorce and go back to my country. And how about my rights to my son? Thank you so much and glad to hear from all of u.
Rose, please log in and write your question as a separate post, thank you.
Wael
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Oh' I am very sorry. I was mistake.
Sister ,
You can request your husbdan to give you Khula (This is a divorce, requested by a Women, In Islam)
Please can you kindly help me...I got married year 2000 when i was a Chirstian...
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how to log in here...cant find it?
Brother Malak,
Just on the front page on the right hand side, underneath "Recent Stories"; is the "Log In or Register" option:).
Muhammad1982,
Editor, IslamicAnswers.com
my husband and i was working in riyadh years ago.we are christians before,we both converted to islam and got married in riyadh. now we are both in different country for work related travel.is our marriage still be honored in countries ourside riyadh?thanks..
sarah, I don't know. In some countries you might have a to get married civilly to enjoy the legal benefits of marriage in that country. In other countries your statement that you are married would be sufficient. If there is a specific country where you want to know if your marriage would be honored, maybe you could ask the embassy personnel about that.
Wael
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
Sir, i am having a problem. i am married back in the philippines last year march 2011. but our relationship didnt work, now we are separated since feb2012. as of now i am working here in saudi arabia. i have a girlfriend right now but she didnt know that i am married back in the philippines.
But we are planning to convert from christian to islam and to get married. my question is, can we become a legal wife and husband?
Your quick response will be highly appreciated
Thanks and regards
Submit your question as a separate post, please. Thank you.
Wael
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
Assalam Alaykum,
Im Filipina 27yo, and currently working here in Riyadh for 4 years now, im revert muslim for more than 1 year already, i have been in a relationship with Italian guy non muslim since before i was still christian and its been 3years from now, he is decisive of wanting to marry me because he loves me, and i dont lie that i loved him and still love him, and he is by heart willing to convert to muslim and embrace islamic faith. he is is residing in Germany right now and he wanted to come here in Riyadh to marry me. What are the necessary requirements we need and what do we have to do?
dextra, if you mean what are the necessary requirements for him to accept Islam, he has only to declare the shahadah with sincerity. If you mean what are the requirements for his shahadah to be accepted by Saudi authorities, or how can he get a visa to Riyadh, or how can the two of you be legally married in Saudi Arabia, then I'm sorry, we don't have the expertise to answer those questions. You will need to ask someone who is familiar with Saudi immigration law and civil law.
Wael
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
Hi im a flilipina i have a boyfriend and he is muslim and also his married in canada, I just to ask is it possible we get married here in philippines?
Please i need your quickly advice thank you.
Lucy
Lucy, you would need to consult someone who knows the law in the Philippines.
Wael
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
iam an indian Hindu, i plan to marry one filipino girl, but for marraige purpose i want to get the affidivit from my parents. but my perents will not allow to marry a filipino girl. so i decide to convert in muslim and i plan to marry her.
in this situation, what is ur advice... what is the formalities for conducting a muslim marraige in philiphines???
liju, in general the requirements for marriage in Islam are mutual consent of the bride and groom, presence of the bride's wali or male representative (typically her father), presence of at least two male Muslim witnesses, payment of the mahr or dowry to the wife, and announcement of the wedding (or a wedding party).
I don't know the specific customs of the Philippines. I'm sure the woman's family can help you with that.
Just make sure you are converting to Islam sincerely and with faith.
Wael
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
Salam alaikom, i was converted for islam since 2007 and alhamdullah i incourage even my kids and hule family to joined me..it wasnt hard for them to change the religion..except my husband .I and my husband was separate 5years back..and last 2years my husband pass away.. But even though allah help me for everything happend into my life alhamdullah... I meet 1 filipino but christian and married in philippine..they was separated 4 years ago and have 2 kids... My pilipino and I are planing to get married.. And we go and get marrie in the court which is sharia law.my husband he convert to muslim on the spot and marry me is that allowed?...and the ex wife in philippine conplained about us in philippine embassy? She want us to go in jail.. Is that possible will happend for both of us..can anyone gave me advise what the best thing to do...
Regards:
Jenan
Jenan, I don't know anything about Philippines law. You should consult a family law attorney from the Philippines.
Wael
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
PLEASE HELP..Im a filipina muslim convert in Saudi.. My fiance is an egyptian married muslim man.. Were planning to get married in Manila, Philippines but dont know where and how.. Pls help..
Ana, you can have your wedding anywhere, and it can be conducted by anyone, as long as you fulfill the conditions of nikah in Islam.
Wael
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
Hi, Good Afternoon Eveyone! What are the Requirements for getting married here in Dubai.. I am Christian and my Fiancee is Muslim.
Kindly let me advice.
Best Regards
G.B
Salaams,
It's best to check with a local attorney in Dubai about that.
-Amy
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
Hi im filipina christian and my fiance ia emirati muslim ( married to his first wife) and we are planning to get married in philippines is it possible that he can get the CERTIFICATION of capacity to marry? Can we still get married even he is married man?
In a Filipina and my bf is a Muslim can we have a secret marriage in the Phil since we are not allowed to get married to his country. What can we do?
Gagi, secret marriages are not allowed or recognized in Islam.
Wael
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
im phillippines and im married already for 13 yrs and we have 2 kidsand im working hir in dubai and i meet 1 syrian he loves and i love him for more than 2 yrs he ask me and if i can marry him i told yes but the problem im married in philippines so pls help me
Help you to do what, dear? You are married! How can you marry another man at the same time? Honor the vows you made to your husband. Be faithful. It's easy to become lonely when you are working abroad, and to allow someone else into your heart. But what about your husband, with whom you have two children? Does he deserve this betrayal?
Wael
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
Asallam o alaikum I'm a filipina christian b4 and now converted to slam I have bf famous Muslim in saudi arabia I love him for morethan 6 six years until now and he love me too my question is....its possible to marrie me or not...,..........................
Pls I need your advice..
Fatima, it's certainly possible in Islam to marry him. But if you have not met him in person, and have not met his family, then I advice you to proceed with extreme caution, as he may not be serious about marrying you. Also, if he is a Saudi national then I find it unlikely that he will marry you.
Wael
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
Thanks actually he met already my family 1month ago and his wife in Saudi she know already about us.
Yes possible to marry him (saudian) but as far as i know saudi has a rules of marrying non saudi nationals they need to go through a lot of issues!
Alsallamualaykom.. I have been in a relationship with a muslim man who i loved so dearly and we have intention of getting married..i was a christian then and have already converted to Islam.. My husband who was a christian, has been beating me and had cheated on me consecutive times and we were no longer living for more than two years..my question is, if i were to get married to my muslim man, would my marriage to my " then so-called husbad" be invalid?? Pls get back to me soon.. Thank you
Yasmin, upon the completion of your 'iddah you will be automatically divorced from your non-Muslim husband. http://en.islamtoday.net/node/1709
Wael
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
Thank u very much brother for the information.. May Allah bless u and your good deeds..
Iyou cant sue him for bigamy becuase the second marriage occured under a foreign jurisdiction. Regarding the validity of the marriage.. i dont think its valid both under the philippine civil law and the philippine sharia law.. his documents show him as single. That means he's never married to you or his second wife.. that means the marriages werent reported/registered.. under philippine law, a muslim man who would like to have a subsequent marriage must file or register with the local sharia court where his family resides.. the marrisge would go through if none of the wives object (seehttp://sc.judiciary.gov.ph/jurisprudence/2011/september2011/191425.html) to quote from the case;The principle in Islam is that monogamy is the general rule and polygamy is allowed only to meet urgent needs. Only with the permission of the court can a Muslim be permitted to have a second wife subject to certain requirements. This is because having plurality of wives is merely tolerated, not encouraged, under certain circumstances (Muslim Law on Personal Status in the Philippines by Amer M. Bara-acal and Abdulmajid J. Astir, 1998 First Edition, Pages 64-65). Arbitration is necessary. Any Muslim husband desiring to contract subsequent marriages, before so doing, shall notify the Shari’a Circuit Court of the place where his family resides. The clerk of court shall serve a copy thereof to the wife or wives. Should any of them objects [sic]; an Agama Arbitration Council shall be constituted. If said council fails to secure the wife’s consent to the proposed marriage, the Court shall, subject to Article 27, decide whether on [sic] not to sustain her objection (Art. 162, Muslim Personal Laws of the Philippines). Sorry. Im still a student.. i just want to help though. You can consult with a sharia attorney. There are in manila. Your case is quite complicated becuse your husband contracted the second marriage outside of the philippine.. and im not even sure what their laws are there.
Asaalam alaikom
I am from Philippine and I have boy friend Saudi nationality, we've been have a relation since for 2years when I start to work in KSA . And now we both are planing to get married in the Philippine and my family relatives already accepted him and they request him to come in our country if he is Really serious, sincere and if he true love me to do what is the rules in Islam marriage. My question is his family don't have any idea that he wants to get married none Saudi girl, so if we get married without knowing his family. So our marriage will be legal Halal in Islam or
Not ? Please advise me. Jazaakom Allah alkhair and thank you
Janis, he can marry you without his family's knowledge, but I advise you to proceed very, very cautiously. It's unlikely that a Saudi would marry a Filipina girl. It's more likely that he is only interested in you as a girlfriend (perhaps for sexual reasons), or that he is already married and will take you as a secret second wife. The fact that his family does not know is a big red flag. I advise you not to marry him.
Wael
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
Sir Wael,
Asaalam alykom again,
Thank you so much for ur good advice and I really appreciated it. I hope you don't mind, In belhf of my previews message regarding for my question then it's seems look like you miss interfer when I say (we had relation since I started to work in KSA) becuase your interpritation is(he only interesting on me as a girlfriend in short (by sexual reason) but let me clear it that he still single but because ilove him then I agree that he can get merried anytime from his nationality because this is one of the roles in KSA. And yes we have that kinds of relation, we worked together in thesame place but nothing's happen Between me and him against the Islam like sleeping together while he is not your mahran. What we have only with in the two years is just talking through phone and before when I went for vacation he followed me in the Philippines. Yes I will not deny I'm in love with him because he so kind person I guess but when he visited me in the Philippines still I respect my self as girl. Until now we still have communication talking through phone. "Thank u so much and I need u more advise before I will deside to accept and signing the merrage contract frm my country. Allah bless you
Dear sir,
Im maricor, filipina. Im working at saudi arabia. Im having my final exit this coming october. And as soon as i go home in the philippines im planning to convert to islam and go back immediately to saudi. Im married in the philippines with christian man but we do not have communication with almost 2 years and we have 1 son. Regarding this matter i have questions..
1. Is my marriagr in philippines will be invalid?
2. Do i need his (christian man) permission for me to convert to iislam?
3. If i have the plan to remarry (a muslim) again, what are the requirements? Do i still need to contact the philippine embassy in saudi? Do i need the permission of my employer?
Im hoping for your kind response.
Salaams,
All of your questions about divorce, marriage and remarriage are legal issues you would have to ask a proper attorney about. The only question I can answer is that you don't need anyone's permission to convert to Islam. It is between you and Allah only. However, I don't understand why you would wait and do it once you return to the Phillipines, if you're already living in Saudi now. It sounds as if you are only considering conversion to remarry someone you've met there, which isn't a valid reason.
-Amy
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
hi! admin i am a muslim filipino men planning to marry filipino women here in riyadh my question is it necessary for her to convert first to islam before we get married?thanks
It is allowed in Islam for a Muslim man to marry a Christian woman, but I do not recommend it. It's better to marry a Muslim.
Wael
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
I AM MARRIED WITH MY HUSBAND IN CIVIL COURT IN PHILSPPINES,, MY HUSBAND WENT TO SAUDI, CONVERTED TO ISLAM AND MARRIED ANOTHER FILIPINA IN MUSLIM CEREMONY? IS THE MUSLIM MARRIAGE LEGAL IN THE PHILIPPINES? WHAT CAN I DO AS A LEGAL WIFE?
Assalaamualaikam
We aren't legal experts, I'm afraid. I'd advise that you speak with a lawyer if you are concerned about the legal status of this second marriage. In Islam, a man may have up to 4 wives, although there are conditions which he must fulfil (including fair and equitable treatment of all wives). If you need more advice, please submit your question as a new post rather than as a comment.
Midnightmoon
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Hi,
I just need a piece of advice, im filipina christian and i have muslim boyfriend from dubai, we are now almost 2 year.he was ask me if I want to marry him but I have to convert to islam so that I can marry him to
Sri lanka.he really love me ,even he have 2 kids but not married to the girl. but I still have a doubt if he will not do the samething before ,what his doing right
now until his not married.because all his past ex are still have a communication with him and something if we are fighting his mount are not good and saying bad words and when he to much angry his beating.the reason why he doing that because he don't have responsibility until his not married that's why he want to married me. Please help wht is the right thing to do?
Sir /madam good pm . I just want to ask if its possible to get married here in saudi a filipina to Syria guy but this guy doesn't have Iqama he only has papers from his parents to stay her in saudi . what's should be the best thing to do with this ? Thanks I'll wait your reply .
charlene, You need to consult someone who knows about immigration and residency laws in Saudi Arabia, as we do not.
Wael
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
Good morning ! Is there possible to get married with Saudi guy to filipina ? Both single but the problem my be his family will not allow him to married filipina .
Asalam o alikum respected Sir , I have my one frd here in Dubai he want make nikha with Filipino girl she already Muslim now coz she working as a housemaid in abudhabi she converted in Muslim there but now she is Dubai and they both want to make nikha sir can its possible to make nikha in Dubai coz girl have no papers I hope u understand sir plz guide plz ALLAH MAY BLESS U plz help what they will do where they go and make nikha thank you
Good evening, peace be with you....
I'm Eden single and a christian from Philippines I want to ask on how to get married here in jeddah saudi arabia bcz my boy friend is egyptian and he is muslim what can we do so we can marry here
Hi.. just want to ask regarding this.. im a married man in the philippines but 7 years we didint see each otherand we never living together start the day of our marriage.. and i met a filipina muslim girl in bahrain. Do i still have chance to marry her in bahrain.?if i convert in muslim. I love muslim
You can convert to Islam and marry the Muslim woman.
Wael
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
wife what says Philippines marriage law I am Pakistani and Muslim 1st Muslim wife is in pakistan is 2nd marriage allowed with a catholic filipino girl in Philippines
hi im married from phil.but me and my ex husband separated and not anulled i want to marry my boyfriend here saudi can i get married here even im married from phil