Proofs against pornography in Islam
Just curious about this. Are there any books, facts or proofs that pornography should not be done in Islam? Why???
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Salaams,
There is no hadith or ayat in the quran that says "do not look at PORNOGRAPHY". But there are plenty of proofs in Islam against not looking at the naked body or private parts of another person who is not lawful for you. Viewing pornography is doing just that.
-Amy
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In support of what Sister Amy said, please see the below evidences, from the Holy Quran and Sunnah:
Hope this helps, inshaAllah.
AOA,
It is a shocking state of affairs when someone asks such a question as to whether the filth that is pornography has proofs of being haram. Porn is an abhorrent and perverse infection of kafir culture that has been popularised and 'normalised', so I suppose that is perhaps why someone very young perhaps? would be asking such a Q.
The people partaking in this sickening behaviour are either devilish beings devoid of any human decency or else drugged up slaves forced by pimps. They would have been subjected to some kind of mind trauma in order to render any morals null and void.
People who watch pornography become deviant and many carry out sexual attacks as a result of this prolonged mental abuse of their own doing. This evil removes all humanity from a person and these bad acts, lead to further bad acts where the threshold for low life behaviour descends to a level where there is no point of return. Pornography was designed to make men disregard and ultimately hate women, leading men to become as the people of Sodom.
Intercourse in a halal marriage is the only permissible way and there are limitations in terms of remaining decent and modest. A Muslim man and wife must not carry out haram and evil practices such as sodomy and it is not permissible to view each others private parts or to copulate openly. Rules are there to abide by and are straight. They are not to be bent, twisted or tweaked to fit in with the encroaching evil of these times.
Your response is outdated. There are no evidence islam said about the restriction you are talking about. May be just sodomy.. a married couple (with nikah) are free to enjoy any pose.. any sexual pleasure and they are free to do porn for them only but not watching porn movie. They are free to wear any sexy lingerie and any fun.. allah has given all the freedom as long as they are pleasing each other.
What is forbidden in islam is do not approach your partner directly to intercourse. Both are free to see & enjoy each others private part n more as there are no scripture that forbid it. Please update your knowledge and not believe everything you have learned until you open the quran and find it by yourself. Sodomy is bad since it cause a lot of diseases and can also cause aids.
I sincerly apologies if ever you have felt offended but i'm direct and do not appreciate when people share some fake information about islam specially when there are no evidence.
Live & let live. May allah increase your knowledge.
Pure & authentic evidence from the holy book al-quran below:-
Surah al baqarah from verse 221-224
(221) They question thee (O Muhammad) concerning menstruation. Say: It is an illness, so let women alone at such times and go not in unto them till they are cleansed. And when they have purified themselves, then go in unto them as Allah hath enjoined upon you. Truly Allah loveth those who turn unto Him, and loveth those who have a care for cleanness.
(222) Your women are a tilth for you (to cultivate) so go to your tilth as ye will, and send (good deeds) before you for your souls, and fear Allah, and know that ye will (one day) meet Him. Give glad tidings to believers, (O Muhammad).
(223) And make not Allah, by your oaths, a hindrance to your being righteous and observing your duty unto Him and making peace among mankind. Allah is Hearer, Knower.
(224) Allah will not take you to task for that which is unintentional in your oaths. But He will take you to task for that which your hearts have garnered. Allah is Forgiving, Clement.
Thanks
'Update your knowledge' ?! Like I said you can't twist and tweak to fit in with evil times. Do not imitate the kaafir in their practises.
None of the verses which are true verses actually defend the vulgarity that you purport as permissible. Islam is all about modesty. Even when something is allowed do not abuse such a favour and behave decently. You are propagating fakery and in danger of being a perverted transgressor.
I will endeavour to locate the sources of info. Your bedroom inspiration is from porn no doubt.
Assalam alaikum Dear Sister,
You wrote:
I am not sure if you are referring to Br. Uzair's comments regarding looking at your spouse, or some other part or the entire part of his comment, but your accusation is not appropriate at all and it discourages people from finding the correct information as they may be accused of something which may just in fact be curiousity. In fact, in your response, your outline what you believe to appropriate stems from avoiding what is inappropriate--it does not mean that you have used any wrongful sources.
I do not agree with creating intimate videos with one's spouse (and of course, there isn't anything directly mentioned about this, but we can come up with obvious reasons to avoid this), but I don't see what else Br. Uzair has said is wrong.
Also, though I understand your sentiment about the post, there are many people who are not educated about Islam in their familes or revert to Islam later who may have such questions--we are better off answering the question than making judgements about the questioner. Jazak Allah.
AsSalaamu Alaikum (Sister Rashida, Brother Uzair, and Sister Saba)
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I think I'm getting confused a bit.
1- What does the OP mean by, ''is doing pornography allowed in Islam?''?
2- Is he talking about taking sexual videos between spouses, without allowing other people to watch them?
3- Is he talking about taking sexual videos between spouses, and allowing other people to watch them?
4- Is he talking about joining the pornography industry, and acting as a pornstar?
5- Is he talking about watching pornography in general, or watching sexual videos of others who are not lawful for him?
The OP asks why at the end of his question. This either suggests that it doesn't make sense to him that porn is haram. Or that he doesn't have the ability to reason using morality to realise that it is a disgusting thing.
Brother Uzair is clearly upset at the comment I made ' it is not permissible to view each others private parts'. His remark about updating my knowledge would tie in with the information now available on the internet which readily looks to validate certain acts, by highlighting weak hadith, such as ;
It was narrated that 'Abd-Allaah ibn Mas'ood (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "When one of you goes in unto his wife, let him cover and not be naked like donkeys."
This was narrated by al-Tabaraani in al-Mu'jam al-Kabeer, 10/196, and by al-Bayhaqi, who classed it as da'eef (weak) (7/193). Its isnaad includes Mandal ibn 'Ali, who is da'eef.
I came across a book entitled 'The Ettiquette of Sexual Relations' by Mufti Zabair Ismail Bayat which I purchased from an Islamic bookshop 11 years ago which advised that it is not permissible to be completely naked. I am of the opinion that of course in a marriage you will witness the private parts but you should not deliberately gaze at them as this will ultimately destroy a person's sense of modesty and morality. Further to that, I believe that oral sex is disgusting, although nowadays online you will find many declaring that there is no outright ruling that it is haram.
Prior to the sexualisation of everything from commercials, fashion, films, TV and even children's products, it was unheard of for Muslims to ask whether oral sex or complete nudity is allowed. I suppose this is where the brother refers to 'updating'. An update of anything is due to the introduction of something new or amended. Islam is unchangeable, so I disagree and thankfully Allah has equipped me with sound faculties to reason whether or not something is good or bad.
My remark was in response to his comment ' a married couple....are free to do porn for them only'. Porn is printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity and is defined as an indecent form of'art' in the English language where the operative word is INDECENT. Being indecent totally conflicts with the behaviour of Muslims and what differentiates us from the non-Muslims is decency, morality and modesty. Anyone with a pure nature will clearly see porn as hideous.
Sexual relations are only lawful between spouses. Women should beautify themselves for their husbands and foreplay must be done first. Even so, intercourse is not to be done with excess or by imitation of the kaafir with the use of props or toys, for then becomes vulgarity. It is also forbidden to divulge on private sexual matters to others.
Al-Araf (The Heights, Surah 7): Verse 33
Say: the things that my Lord hath indeed forbidden are: shameful deeds, whether open or secret; sins and trespasses against truth or reason; assigning of partners to Allah, for which He hath given no authority; and saying things about Allah of which ye have no knowledge.
Assalam alaikum,
Dear Sister Rashida,
Most of what you written, I don't even oppose, my point was that to suggest that if a person may have preferences regarding intimacy that are not in line with yours, that does not mean that they are inspired by porn.
Also, if a particular act of intimacy is something that one person looks down upon to the point that they call it disgusting, that doesn't make it wrong or right--we would have to further investigate into it since there are differing opinions. And as you already know that there are books out there for the sole reason that people have curious minds. Also, as you said, people are not supposed to discuss what they do practice in their marriage, so in this case, the Prophet pbuh so wisely made that which was/is prohibited very clear (although there are some things that are in the grey area and I will not discuss that here) as opposed to listing out what is permissible. I hope that clarifies what I meant.
Brother Issah,
I am not sure if the OP is asking about sexual videos between spouses, though I re-read what was written above and thought, perhaps that could be the case. I found Sr. Amy's comment above followed by yours sufficient.
As for your questions, I believe that we understand that pornography is not allowed in any capacity, even between married couples.
@sister saba thanks for understand my point & for your clarification.. may allah help sister rashida to update her knowledge about the reality of sexual guide from pure scripture from the quran. If people keep sharing non authentic sourse of rules about sex in islam.. this can really affect our married brother & sisters in their sexual life.. they can feel devish when they are not.. as rashida said is evil... but those thing become evil if someone are doing so out of "nikah"(legal islamic marriage)
@brother Issah walaikum salam
What i have understand from the topic of "is doing pornography allowed in Islam?''
Ans: i think the sender of this post want to refer to oral sex or may be about pose, style, communication etc what goes on in porn.. excluded video recording and non married partner. That is what meant about the word of "pornography" so yes is it permissble in islam as per i have said in my first rwply to rashida.
However if the sender is referring to:
To watch porn video of other people other than her/his married couple.
To be a porn star by joining porn industry etc
To watch porn or any sexual video for sexual education purpose other than cartoon porn video
Then it is not permisible in islam.
Thanks
Salam
You clearly do not have any kind of understanding. Pornography is not a word used to describe private matters between a husband and wife, I have already stated a definition of it above. And yes, porn is evil, update yourself.
As for the porn between the couple alone, it is makruh (disliked), because:
1- It might get into the hands of others, such as children, family, friends etc.
2- Anything can happen in the future, such as divorce etc.
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As for the couple looking at (or touching) the private parts of each other, please see the link below.
http://islamqa.info/en/worship/13486
Note: I edited the saying of Shaykh al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him), because I noticed a slight mistake in the translation from the above mentioned site.
Allah knows best.
Jazak Allah Br. Issah. Whatever you have shared here is very critical as sometimes we tend to unnecessarily make haram what is halal in the beautiful relationship between husband and wife.
Jazakillahu khair al-Jaza, Sister Saba.
@sister rashida salam
To be honest, the hadith you have provided is either non-authentic or modified by internet people. Because logically it doesnt make sense and i cannot see any point in it where if both married partner see each other's private part, enjoys it in anyway etc will destroy the person's sense of morality & modesty.. may be these act can affect a little children but not an adult.
Now coming about your reference from the quran, i have no doubt about what allah said in this verse.. but this verse have nothing to do about sexual... this verse is for general purpose of your life..
Thanks.
This is my last comment to this debate as I have other things to be getting on with. It looks like you don't read or understand English above basic level.
I inserted that hadith,STATING it is a WEAK hadith to explain that online info uses the weakness of the hadith to disprove the idea that being unclothed with your spouse is haram. I explained how I came to the opinion of it being not allowed and I advised that I still have that OPINION as it depends on what people's level of haya is.
The verse from the Qur'an and the reason for highlighting it is because it talks about forbidden things such as SHAMEFUL deeds, and going against truth or REASON as in the ability to make a proper judgement of a matter. It has everything to do with this topic as well as being applicable to all matters. Porn and viewing it/ imitating it is a shameful deed.
Clearly you are taking this very personally, for me absurdity and short-sightedness irritate me as well not having the courtesy of reading all of what someone has written before making comments.
Anyway the OP is asking for proofs against pornography and that has been answered. Your debate is causing the matter to go off point. Do as you please, Allah has given us the ability to make informed decisions. We all have to answer on the Day of Reckoning.