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Is wearing Jeans/Pants haram for Muslim women?

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Salam Everyone,

I am new to wearing Hijab and have worn jeans all my life.

I am hoping someone can help me to understand if wearing pants or jeans is haram for females. I found this out yesterday that if women imitates men she would not even smell the fragrance of paradise, is this true? Does wearing jeans/pants count as imitating men, when that is NOT my intention at all? I wear jeans and long blouse. And for work it's dress pants and again my shirt is long. Can someone please clear this up, I don't know what I'm gonna do if it's haram. I don't mind wearing dress/skirt when going out but for work its different.

And can you shake hands with men on a purely professional level? (If this question's been answered, a link will do)

Thank you in advance.

Sincerely,

Islam1234


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  1. Salaams,

    There certainly are some scholars that will say that women wearing pants is haram because it falls under the "imitation of men". However there are also scholars that say there is nothing that specifically forbids wearing pants, and that as long as women follow the guidelines of modesty by wearing loose-fitting pants it is acceptable. As you may have noticed, there are Islamic sub-cultures and many muslimahs who do wear baggy pants as part of a two-piece outfit, and I've never personally seen anyone approach them to tell them to stop.

    It sounds like you live in a western culture. As I've said before, trying to stick to a strict interpretation of sharia in an un-Islamic culture (particularly if a woman is working) is really impractical. There are scholars who live and work in the west who understand this, and teach that the moderate course is to go ahead and wear loose pants, and cover the rest of yourself as you would normally.

    On the issue of shaking hands, here again is a controversy between strict and loose interpretations. Generally, non-mahrems are not to touch each other at all, for any reason. Yet, in a western culture (especially in corporate culture), following this in entirety would be seen as rude and may jeopardize one's livelihood. Even though Islam sets clear guidelines about how non-mahrems should interact, Islam also teaches that we should keep good and peaceful relations with non Muslims around us. For that reason, some would say that "shaking hands" is permitted (although it may be disliked) because it is a cultural norm that is more noticeable when NOT practiced (ie: someone tries to shake your hand and you refuse).

    I realize these are not clear-cut answers, but such is the case with a lot of legal technicalities like these, particularly when practiced in a western setting. If you want to research the issue further, talk to a few local imams where you live and see what their views are. I'm sure after getting more information you will have a conviction about how you want to approach this in your own life.

    -Amy
    IslamicAnswers.com Editor

  2. ASSALAMALAIKUM-
    Question: Some women dress their young daughters in trousers, and thereafter dress them up in an 'abaa.ah (full-length outer garment covering a female's body from head to toe).What is the ruling regarding this?

    Response: That which I am of the opinion is that the young girls should not be dressed in trousers, since from one angle - this does away with their humility, and from another angle – there is a rule amongst the people of knowledge, (and that is) «whatever is haraam for the elder (female) to wear is (also) haraam for the younger (female) to wear»; (in that case), I am of the opinion that the young girl should not be dressed in trousers, even if she is covered with an 'abaa.ah.
    ______________________
    Shaykh Ibn 'Uthaymeen
    Silsilah Kitaab ad-Da'wah (12), al-Fataawa - Volume 3, Page 189-90
    Ibn Abbas (RA) reports from Hadhrat Ayesha (Radhiallahu-anha) narrates that
    Nabi (Sallallahu alayhi wasallam) has cursed such men who imitate women and such women who imitate men.
    In one narration it stated that such people should be thrown out of their houses. [Bukhari Vol 2 pg 874]
    SOME WOMEN ARGUE IN THIS FORUM IT IS ALLOWED THAT THE WOMEN IN PROPHET SALALAHAUALAIHIWASALAM TIMES USED TO RIDE CAMEL AND HOW DID THEY DO THAT RIDE WITHOUT PANTS ETC IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT TODAYS WOMEN WHO WORK THINK THE AUTHENTIC HADEES WITH AUTHENTIC FATWA IS ONLY VALID NOT THE PROGRESSIVE MUSLIMS WOMEN OPINIONS-
    The precious pearls are hidden deep down in the ocean in a shell, yet don't they get caught and used to fulfill the desire of human beings?
    Dress of a woman plays a major role.IN SAFETY MATTERS...
    YOU WILL GET RESPONCE NOW FROM THOSE WHO FAVOUR THIS PANT SYSTEM
    REGARDS

  3. Assalamu'alaikum,

    I disagree with sister Amy about the handshake. In no case can this be termed "permitted" because when we are warned not to come near zina, this handshake is actually something that stimulates one's desire and takes one to zina. The result is that one will look for pleasure and if one does not find halaal means, chances are that one may turn to haraam. We do not change for the west but we remain on the middle path and have patience. It is haraam to shake hands with a non Mahram and may Allah Forgive us for our weaknesses and enable us to follow His True Guidance.

    Concerning the jeans, yes if you wear jeans and go out of your home it is imitation of men. And the hadeeth that says imitating men is haraam is applicable here. However, if you wear a proper hijaab over this jeans, I can recall a fatwa which says this is not haraam as you have covered it with a modest dress. What hijaab is, is again another matter.

    This life is a test to see whether we obey Allah or we don't. It is required that we follow what is most correct and according to the teachings of Rasoolullah. He advised women to wear long loose outfits which reach the ground. When they complained that it would get dirty, he said what comes after the dirt will clean it. (accrding to a Hasan hadith in Abu Dawood) This was to cover their feet which is awrah (accrdong to a Sahih hadith in Abu Dawood).

    So sister, thank the One Who gave you the tawfeeq to wear a hijaab and adopt it completely and may Allah Give you Barakah.

    He Says:

    يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا ادْخُلُوا فِي السِّلْمِ كَافَّةً وَلَا تَتَّبِعُوا خُطُوَاتِ الشَّيْطَانِ ۚ إِنَّهُ لَكُمْ عَدُوٌّ مُبِينٌ
    O you who have believed, enter into Islam completely [and perfectly] and do not follow the footsteps of Satan. Indeed, he is to you a clear enemy.

    Abu Abdul Bari
    IslamicAnswers.com Editor

  4. There is a lot of point of views about this issue but I think that this is the most logical one :
    Wearing pants is not haram as long as it is loose .
    We all know that Islam is a religion made to fit in all the times and all the places ... That's why sometimes we don't find exact answers to our questions ... Because what is convenient today was not convenient 50 years ago ,and what is convenient for this place and Thiis situation is not convenient to an other ...So in the past women didn't have the habit of wearing pants actually the woman that used to year pants (over 100 years ago in some countries )was called really bad names THIS WAS IMITATING MEN .. However now 90% of women are wearing pants and this became really normal ... Also is est of Asia women wore pants for over 700 years ago and that had nothing to do with IMITATING MEN .

    • ASSALAMALAIKUM AYA-
      WHO ARE YOU TO GIVE THIS FATWA THAT PANT IS ALLOWED AS LONG AS IT IS LOOSE ETC ETC
      AND
      and this became really normal ..
      ISLAM DOES NOT CHANGE WITH YOU MILLIONS COME AND GO FROM THIS WORLD ISLAM IS SAME-EAST ASIA OR WEST ASIA NO AUTHORITY HAS BEEN GIVEN TO ANY NATION TO MEDDLE WITH THE SHAIRIAH-
      MIND YOU SO THAT YOU DONT MISGUIDE THE INNOCENT UMMAH IN THIS FORUM-WITH YOUR FALACIES
      OK

      • Salaams,

        Like I said, these are not my opinions, but opinions of teachers and scholars who actually live in the west and see what we deal with here as Muslims. Here is one of their fatwas, for your reference:

        It is permissible for a woman to wear pants as long as they meet the minimum requirements of an Islamic dress. Among the minimum requirement of an Islamic dress is that it covers the entire body of the woman except face, hands and feet, it is not revealing, it is exposing the shape of particular body parts etc...

        With regard to your question about imitating the dress of woman, it is only a concern when some dress is exclusive for one gender apart from the other. If some dress is unisex then there is no harm in wearing that dress such as pajama or trouser.
        And Allah knows best.

        Mufti Ikram ul Haq

        Fatwa Center of America

        In addition, this website gives an extensive analysis on permissibility of shaking hands based on likelihood of desire (among other things): http://www.suhaibwebb.com/islam-studies/faqs-and-fatwas/shaking-hands-with-a-non-mahram-dr-yusuf-al-qaradawi/

        I realize some things I say don't apply to every person or cultural environment, but the truth is that Muslims in the west don't have the same Islamic support to practice as fully as Muslims elsewhere. Not only that, but for converts like myself, the west IS the culture we've known most of our lives, and trying to practice Islam is the change. We didn't grow up with Islam, and in most cases we never heard of it until well into our adult years. We've been doing things like shaking hands with no thought all our lives (and for that reason it's not something that incites lust at all), so to drastically change those culturally accepted practices suddenly one day does have very serious repurcussions. I don't think Muslims in other parts of the world realize how much Islam is hated and feared in the west, particularly in the USA. Even something as simple as stopping shaking hands only adds fuel to the fire of the western non-Muslims, and further "proves" in their mind that we are simply not like them, and that we are out to take them over. There is no way to combat this mindset if western Muslims were to insist on following shariah "no matter what".

        I'm not saying all this to prove or disprove fatwas given by muftis. All I'm saying is that in the giving of fatwas, the muftis who appreciate what is actually going on in western culture factor that into their interpretations. Now what they rule, that's between them and Allah, and hopefully all muftis have enough taqwa to try to rule as prudently as they are able. Those who follow a formal ruling aren't to blame as much as the giver of that ruling would be.

        I think every Muslim in the west would LOVE to live their lives according to Islam more freely. We would love to practice shariah more, but unless we are willing or able to move to another part of the world it's simply impossible to do perfectly. The cultures we live actually force us to do many things that are contrary to Islam. If a Muslim woman gets pulled over by an officer, and he reaches out to shake her hand when he greets her, do you know she could be arrested for disrespecting a law enforcement officer if she refuses? Not saying she would actually be convicted of the crime, but this is not something you play with. Most Muslims I know aren't willing to jeopardize their family, their livelihood, or their good standing as a Muslim in their local community over something as simple as handshakes.

        And I'm sure there are those who would advise us to stand up and follow these guidelines anyway, no matter what the cost, and trust Allah. As if that would help the case for Muslims in the west, making us more palatable and acceptable. These are the realities, and for those who want to practice things hard and fast, I have the utmost respect. But I've yet to see someone stick to that while living in the US, whether they are a born Muslim raised here or immigrant, or convert. I challenge anyone to try, because most who start out that way end up seeing very quickly where that road leads.

        I'm sorry to have vented. I just hope that some of our brothers and sisters can take the time to truly understand how some of us live so proper support can be offered, instead of picking about "should's".

        -Amy
        IslamicAnswers.com Editor

        • Sister, in the link you provided, Yusuf al Qardawi is wrong in using his logic over the evidences of deen.

          He permits handshaking when there is no desire, while the ahaadeeth do not permit a second look at a woman (for a man), as this hadith says...touching a woman/handshakes are far ahead of the deed of the eye:

          “O Ali, do not follow a glance with another, for you will be forgiven for the first, but not for the second.” (Reported by al-Tirmidhi, 2701; see Saheeh al-Jaami’, 7953)

          And his words are also against the following hadith:

          It is better for a Believer to be struck in the head with a hot iron rod than to touch a woman who is not lawful for him.[Tabarani & Baihaqqi]

          There is no mention of desire or no desire. When he talks about touching older women, scholars agree that even looking at an older woman is permissible. So this has nothing to do here.

          He also uses the hadith about slave women of Madeenah taking hold of his hand. This is totally out of context. This hadith shows how humble our beloved Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam was towards slave women. His qiyas is also against the explanation of the classical scholars. Ibn Hajar says in Fathul Bari about this hadith:

          It became clear to us via powerful evidence that the Prophet Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam was especially permitted to be alone with a women who is foreign to him (non Haram to him), and to look at her. This is the correct response to the story of Um Haram bint Milahan, when He Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam entered her home, and slept in her home. And when she cleaned His hair, without them being married or being Mahrams.

          According to this qiyas, men must also be allowed to have 9 wives at a time because Rasoolillah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam did and he is the best example. Instead, some things are only for him and not for his Ummah.

          So, this is no excuse for handshaking with a non Mahram. May Allah Give us the Tawfeeq to follow what is best.

          قُلْ إِنِّي أَخَافُ إِنْ عَصَيْتُ رَبِّي عَذَابَ يَوْمٍ عَظِيمٍ
          Say, "Indeed I fear, if I should disobey my Lord, the punishment of a tremendous Day." (al An'aam)

          Abu Abdul Bari
          IslamicAnswers.com Editor

          • Salaams,

            I totally understand the point you are trying to make. And certainly there is plenty of scholarly support for your position.

            However, I feel, as lay-people, we should be careful about saying a mufti "is wrong" in their opinion. Of course, we are all free to accept/reject, to follow or not follow, any fatwa. If this mufti were present to ask about his position, and ask why he disagrees with the opposing position, and then conclude based on his answers what we want to follow, that's one thing. But to read an opinion and declare it "wrong", without being on any level of scholarship ourselves, that seems a bit disrespectful. After all, we all know that the qualifications for becoming a mufti are high, and this status can't be pulled out of a cereal box. Whether we agree or disagree with a fatwa or scholarly opinion, we should still have enough respect for the recognized positions of the learnt to approach it with adab.

            -Amy
            IslamicAnswers.com Editor

          • I agree about having aadaab towards scholars beacuse they are heirs of the Prophets, but saying a scholar is wrong does not disrespect him. And when we have evidences, do we follow them or a fatwa that opposes the evidences? There are scholars such as Shaikh Muqbil bin Haadee, Shaikh Albani and Shaikh Yahya an Najmee Rahimahumullah who declared Yusuf al Qardawi to be misguided and foolish but that is a different matter.

            Abu Abdul Bari
            IslamicAnswers.com Editor

    • One point Muslims should remember is that Islam does not change with time. It remains as it began. People change and become misguided. Those who remain on the original deen are guided. We do not change for cultures. Our culture is our deen and what opposes the deen is rejected. Wearing loose trousures maybe permitted among mahrams or when one is at home. But when one goes out, the situation is different.

      Abu Abdul Bari
      IslamicAnswers.com Editor

    • just because something becomes normal, doesnt mean that it becomes right. when a culture in a society changes, our deen never changes. there are muslims who say bismillah before eating chicken/beef even though there are lots of halal meat around them.. does that mean we should do that too? no! there are muslims who wear revealing clothing, it is very normal in western cultures.. does that mean we should follow too? no! there are muslims who become gay or lesbian.. almost every country is legalizing it... that doesn't mean we should follow it.

  5. Assalaamualaikam

    There are a lot of different opinions and interpretations regarding this issue, and it's one that stirs a lot of feelings in many people.

    Living and working in a society in which Islam is not accepted or even widely tolerated can be a daily struggle and it can be very hard to find a path that allows us to fulfil our spiritual aims and our requirements for being able to keep our jobs, support our families, etc. For example, a female doctor might have to treat a male patient, and if she refused she might well lose her job.

    My personal approach is that I aim to live up to the guidance given to us, and try my best to avoid going against it. Where there are things I am prevented from doing, I look at how I can adapt the situation - either through talking to someone and making changes to the environment, or by making plans to get into a more appropriate situation.

    With regards your query about jeans and trousers, I would advise you to read the opinions of scholars and try to apply that to your situation - people can say you should or shouldn't do things, but I feel the best way to proceed is to read the information and decide for yourself whether you wish to follow it, and which bits you wish to follow.

    May Allah guide us all and give us tolerance to support and accept our brothers and sisters in faith, wherever they may be.

    Midnightmoon
    IslamicAnswers.com editor

  6. assalamalaiku
    ALL SAID AND DONE ANY ONE FOR THAT MATTER WHO GIVES FATWA HE MUST MUST MUST HAVE REFERENCE FROM QURAN OR AUTHENTIC HADEES OR ELSE IT WILL BECOME A JOKE LIKE TAQLEED FORMUALTED IN 4TH AND 5TH HIJRI BY IJMA OF INNOVATORS WHO HAVE NO EVIDENCE FROM QURAN RATHER THEIR STAND DEFIES MANY QURAN VERSIONS AND AND HADEES - IN THEIR ADAMANT ATTITUDE TO ESTABLISH WHAT THEY SAY IS RIGHT-EXAMPLE [3 RALAQS IN ONE SITTING AND HALALA]
    IN THIS MATTER ALSO WE MUST ACCEPT A FATWA WHICH ALIGNS WITH QURAN REFERENCE OR HINT FROM HADEES-

    THEN IT IS OK TO ACCEPT AND FOLLOW NOT THAT ANY ONE SAYS ANYTHING AS IF ISLAM IS HIS FAMILY PROPERTY AND SOME LOCALS MAKE HIM HERO BY GETTING A FOLLOWING AND THAT HE BECOMES A SELF AUTHORISED SCHOLAR TO SAY WHAT EVER HE LIKES-

    REGARDS

    • Assalamu Alaykum

      From above I came to know one thing Women should be in bardah and when she go out she should be with Hijaab now my question is

      Can a women wear half sleeves top and a rinkles pant. and night dress in the night at home??????

      jazakkallahu Khair in advance

      • Salaams,

        When a woman is at home -alone or only among her mahram- she may wear whatever she wants so long as her awrah is covered. I believe that most scholars (I know at least Hanafi ones say this) will say the awrah for a woman in such a case is the navel to the knee (and this actually surprised me because it is essentially saying women can walk around topless at home if they like lol). Of course for salat only you would have to cover everything again.

        -Amy
        IslamicAnswers.com Editor

        • As-salamu Alaykum,
          Although a woman's awrah is from the navel to the knee, this does not mean it is okay for a woman to go topless at home or in front of other women. Although I cannot tell you for sure what is meant by this permission, my feeling is that it may have to do with granting women some allowances to perform natural acts like breastfeeding in the presence of other women without having to worry about being exposed. All of the opinions I have read on the topic of women's modesty state that it is better for women to remain modest in the presence of other women and not expose more of the body than necessary.

          Regarding the issue of pants, I think if we go back to the Qur'an we will find that the relevant verses speak of an overgarment of some sort. Also consider that elderly women beyond the age of desire are granted permission to cast aside the overgarment. If women were simply wearing "regular" clothes, then what garments are the elderly women casting aside in verse 24:60? There are obviously two levels of dress - the "regular" modest dress that the majority of Muslim women are required to maintain and a slightly less modest dress that elderly women are allowed to wear because it is more relaxed for them.

      • Wa Alaikum as Salam,

        You must read the answer of Shaikh ibn Uthaimeen Rahimahullah: http://understand-islam.net/site/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=127

        Abu Abdul Bari
        IslamicAnswers.com Editor

  7. Salam,

    I see many women wearing hijab with loose fitting trousers and tops outside. Is this acceptable? or do we have to wear the traditional black burka outside?

    what about shelwar kameez, the traditional asian dress for women that comprises of trousers and top?

    • or do we have to wear the traditional black burka outside?
      Hijaab is not a piece of cloth on your head. It's a way of life.
      Its a whole way of life.Allaah says:
      “And say to the believing women to lower their gazes, and to guard their private parts, and not to display their beauty (zeenah) except what is apparent of it, and to extend their headcoverings (khimars) to cover their bosoms (jaybs), and not to display their beauty except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband's fathers, or their sons, or their husband's sons, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their womenfolk, or what their right hands rule (slaves), or the followers from the men who do not feel sexual desire, or the small children to whom the nakedness of women is not apparent, and not to strike their feet (on the ground) so as to make known what they hide of their adornments. And turn in repentance to Allah together, O you believers, in order that you are successful.” (Surat-un-Nur: 31)
      Well, my head is covered. What more do you want?AS IF IT IS A FAVOUR DONE ON ALLAH-
      Sorry....tight jeans and short shirt just don’t cut itYou can’t wear tight jeans and a short shirt with a piece of cloth on your head and think this is Hijaab. Nor can you wear anything else that is tight, describing the shape of the body in any way, even if it is long. The Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) said:"In later (generations) of my ummah there will be women who will be dressed but naked. On top of their heads (what looks) like camel humps. They will not enter into paradise or (even) get a smell of it." (Muslim)
      If it is see-through, its NOT Hijaab
      The Hijaab shouldn’t attract attention
      Tinkling Jewelry and Jingling bracelets
      No laughing, joking, or hanging out with non-Mahrams
      Staring at the brothers or ‘checking them out’ is NOT Hijaab
      ‘Chatting’ on the internet/phone is not part of Hijaab, either
      Be careful, even in the way you walk
      Don’t shake hands with non-Mahrams. Its part of Hijaab
      Stay away from the men’s areas
      Hijaab is also to conceal your sisterAlthough some sisters wear the Hijaab themselves, they forget that they cannot talk about another sister and her beauty in front of their own husbands, brothers, etc. Remember, part of your Hijaab is to cover your sisters ‘awrah’ as well.The Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) said: “No woman should mix with a woman and describe her to her husband so that it is as if he can see her.” (Muslim)
      FINALLY-"Every religion has a morality, and the morality of Islam is Haya (Shyness)".

      • Brother I wasn't talking about tight jeans and top! I know thats haram to wear outside. I was asking if burka(one piece flowing dress) or one sheet of clothing is compulsory for women to wear outside OR are we allowed to wear other clothes or two pieces of LOOSE BIG clothing which does not show the figure? I.e big long skirt with baggy top or loose trousers for female etc.

        I just wanted to know if burka was compulsory as their is difference in opinion from people. It does not specifically say in the quran that the women have to wear long flowing one peice garment.

    • Such an interesting question because if pants are an imitation of men, then wouldn't shalwar/kameez be an imitation of men as well (or the men are imitating the women???) - because essentially shalwar/kameez are worn by BOTH men and women in the subcontinent.

      I think we exercise our best judgement and practice being dressed decently (and I'm not going to list specifics as it ultimately comes down to what you personally choose and enough information is given here) and behaving appropriately and we all should remember that Allah is well acquainted with our intentions. May Allah guide us on the straight path!

      • Salam,

        Come to think of it, In my opinion the ayah men should not imitate women and women should not imitate men might be talking about cross dressers. Because nowadays cross dressers are increasing. You get s lot of drag queens ( men putting on make up and long dress and wig to look like a women) so they are one hundred per cent imitating women. There are women who are tomboys and wear mens clothing to make them look like masculine.

        I dont know if this is the kind of thing this ayah/ verse is refering to. As certain clothing are unisex both worn by men and women. There are trousers specifically for men and trousers specifically for women.

        And the burka issue, some have said it is not compulsory and it doesnt state this explicitly in the quran. I find that it is hard walking in a burka that drags on the floor as a) it sweeps up all the dirt from the ground which will then become impure to pray in this clothing and b) I keep tripping over, i have to work and then run around to pick up kids so i walk alot. I have fallen over many times and hurt myself.

        Thats why i need to know if its compulsory or not.

  8. If you want to follow islam as it was 50-100 years ago I suggest you/we should go and live in a islamic country so we dont have these daily dilemmas. Go where the shia laws are and live how muslims live. Why live in a western country and then worry if your doing the right thing according to islam? Living in england/uk is not best for islam. Something as simple as a handshake is taken way out of context. I was under the Impression if you dont have wrong intentions then something as simple as a handshake would be fine. But if your intentions are not pure then that would be haram.

    • I was under the Impression if you dont have wrong intentions then something as simple as a handshake would be fine. But if your intentions are not pure then that would be haram.
      YOU ARE NO ONE TO GIVE IMPRESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSIONS IN SHARIAH-

      PLS KEEP IT TO YOURSELF

      ALL OVER THE WORLD SHARIAH IS SAME NO COMPENSATION NO PARTIALLITY
      HOPE IT IS CLEAR DEAR DE ASLAM-

  9. HIJAB IS CONDITION FOR ACCEPTANCE OF SALAH-
    Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin (Radhiallaahu Ánha) "Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Álayhi Wasallam) said "Allah does not accept the prayer of a woman who has reached puberty unless she wears a veil."
    Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 9, Book 89, Hadith # 293
    ROZA IS DEPENDANT ON SALAH PLS REMEMEBER WITHOUT WHICH ROZA IS NOT ACCEPTED AND HIJAB IS CONDITION FOR ACCEPTANCE OF SALAH-BECAUSE IT IS FARZ ON WOMEN-
    Sending this to all is my worry for them as the word hidaya[mnay msulism women say when Allah gives hidaya i will do hijab] i will explain if u dont mind-The book Of Hidaya is called The holy Quran u agree?and the same is not in the house of kafirs-
    When the book of hidaya is come in our houses then we cannot say Allah give us hidaya give us hidaya for the things which are already decalared as farz one of them is Hijab-
    my bhabi was telling the the same when i asked when Allah gives hidaya i will do hijab she passed 40 years saying this and finally died of cancer at 62 -
    Hidaya is for those things like getting up for namaz in fajr doing charity or small things day to day life-which shaitan makes us neglect we seek help of Allah for hidaya-
    All farz which are base of iman in that we are not doing our irada and by that we become answerable -and punishments also are there for defying those points pls read this u will know -better knowledge of hijab and send to others also...... http://muslimcanada.org/purdah.pdf

  10. Bismillahirrahmaanirrahim.
    wassalaatu wassalaamu alaa Rasulillah

    In fact there is no Ayat nor Hadith prohibiting the wearing of trousers. I challenge anyone here to find an Ayat or hadith that EXPLICITELY prohibits woman from wearing trousers. If you don't know what the word explicit means please look it up. In fact,..the shari'ah says explicitely that a woman is covered so long as she is showing only her face and hands .
    (4092) 'Aisha said: Asthma', daughter of Abu Bakr, entered upon the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) wearing thin clothes. The Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) turned his attention from her. He said: O Asthma', when a woman reaches the age of menstruation, it does not suit her that she displays her parts of the body except this and this, and he pointed to her face and hands. (Note 3523)

    If we are assuming that wearing trousers is haram (and they all are only assuming ) because of the hadith that mentions men or woman imitating each other are cursed,I know the hadith well, then we MUST assume that wearing a thobe is imitating a woman and also the sorang( dress like wrap for men) .Thus all men who are wearing a thobe and sorang are cursed ! .
    The real dilemma is the cultural difference between east and west. Muslims from the east namely Pakistani ,do not understand what life is like living as a Muslim in the west and visa versa. And if you have visited the US temporarily it is no where near enough to understand the American Muslim dilemma. NONE

    As far as shaking hands with men or woman non mahram ,it is explicitly forbidden. However to the sister who posted this thread,. We as American Muslims understand your dilemma and remind you as well as our selves that American Muslims are in a constant state of dawah in America because of the lies and propaganda that is being hurled at Islam .
    "Fain would they put out the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah disdaineth (aught) save that He shall perfect His light, however much the disbelievers are averse."
    We all have our battles and non of us can say we are free from haram,...no one here can say they are free from haram.
    You must do your best to apply shari'ah in your life as much as you are able. There is a difference in opinion among the scholars about returning a hand shake with a non mahram in a non Islamic culture as mentioned previously here by Amy.Don't scare people away in your practice by not shaking their hand if they offer to shake yours because that is their way of showing peace and we are a people and a religion of peace. If we refuse to shake their hands or educate them about Islamic tradition then we further the idea that Islam is as the extremists have painted it,and we are showing that Islam is intolerant of others. In fact Islam is very tolerant.

    • Bashir,

      It is ridiculous to compare thawb with the dress of women. We are aware that in the subcontinent women wear something called salwar and kameez. This is something like a trousure and a long shirt. It is NOT considered haraam by anyone whosoever. BUT if they comeout of their homes like that with this beautiful dress, that is something scholars condemn.

      The dress is zeenah in itself and thus abayah is used to cover it. (Read the conditions of hijaab I posted above). And there is EXPLIXIT mention of the ruling that the abayah or the hijaab SHOULD cover the feet and should be dragged on the ground as you can read in the hadith I have quoted above.

      If we do not know, we must not pass rulings because they may be used against us in the court of Allah. Because if we are wrong, then we would be misguiding thousands of people with our wrong words. So we must beware.

      We do not look at one hadith and declare something halaal but we look at all that exists for that case and then reconcile all of them. This is what scholars do and make rulings. The hadith of our mother Aaishah bint Abi Bakr is enough to say face and hands can be exempted but not to approve wearing trousures outside of her home.

      And another point: like what Shaikh ibn Uthaimin says, what is haraam in a Muslim country is haraam in non Muslim countries. One must have patience and obey Allah and His Rasool instead of doing haraam. And it is not the case that if a woman does not shake hands with a man in America she will lose her life. So brother, please do not challenge the deen and its rulings.

      Abu Abdul Bari
      IslamicAnswers.com Editor

      • Salaams,

        Brother, I had no idea that salwar/kameez was not worn publicly in the subcontinent. I'm serious. Here in the US, Muslim women wear them openly everywhere- we see this all the time at places like Walmart or even the halal markets. They even come to the masjid wearing only these colorful outfits. In fact, when I first converted I was given a bad of clothes as several of them were salwar/kameez and I wore them too like I saw everyone else doing. No one here in the US who may have never been to the subcontinent would've ever imagined that they didnt also dress this way publicly "back home".

        I mention that because that's why it seemed hypocritical for many brothers to come and ban the idea of pants, when practically every immigrant muslimah we are over here is wearing salwar/kameez out and about. To the observer- what's the difference?

        So if you hadn't mentioned that, we wouldn't have known that. And I can guarantee you that I'm probably not the only non-Indo/pak muslimah who understood it the way I had experienced it.

        This is why it's so important for us to share what living in our respective cultures is REALLY like. Here in US, all the salwar/kameez include a type of pants- and all the girls wear it, so how is it wrong? ----that's how we deduce it. Never would've guessed they put an abaya on over that there. I can tell you that in the US, women only wear abayas when it's cold, or as the dress itself if its not open in front- meaning there is nothing else underneath.

        So when people being their questions they are bringing everything they seen and observed and live with, and people are advising not understanding that. I myself used to do the same thing when I first came here before I understood things like moving in with the in laws over there. And I gave "solid Islamic advice" to some of those situations, but I later found out it probably wasn't helpful because I didn't understand the cultural differences. It's Islamic to tell a woman who is being beaten by her family to get out, but in the subcontinent this is so disgraceful to many it's not an option. If one can't appreciate that, then one can't help find a solution that really works.

        So I am just saying we need to ask about what is really going on, get a true understanding of the obstacles and special circumstances one is dealing with, before we can start giving advice. We can't just automatically start with the black and white because many people live with some gray.

        -Amy
        IslamicAnswers.com Editor

        • Salaams,

          Also just wanted to ask: if wearing salwar/kameez (with the pants) is OK as long as an abaya is worn, why is that not the advice given here? Instead of telling us NOT to wear the pants at all, why not say "sure it's fine so long as you wear an abaya over them?

          Is the technicality in actually wearing them at all? Or in merely being seen in them by non mahrem? Because if they actually cannot be worn, I would imagine that would include salwar/kameez with the abaya being irrelevant. It would also mean only wearing nightgowns to bed, right?

          -Amy
          IslamicAnswers.com Editor

          • Wa Alaikum as Salam,

            I have read some scholars say that wearing trousures or not is irrelevant if abayah or hijaab is worn. And I knew that there are many women who walk in the west wearing salwar and kamees, without wearing abayah over it :)

            I never said wearing pants was haraam per se as you can read in my comments. But, only at her home. Allah Orders her to conceal her zeenah, when He Says:

            ولا يبدين زينتهن
            And not expose their adornment (24:31)

            Culturally, what is Islamic, I have seen people condemn it. Women who drag their abaayah on the ground, I heard women say against them saying they were unclean or something. I told them that these women were actually acting upon the hadith of Rasoolullah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam.

            May Allah Help our sisters in the west obey Him and His Rasool more closely. I know they face difficulties. But they should strive to follow, insted of sufficing themselves with what is incomplete. As Allah Says:

            فَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ مَا اسْتَطَعْتُمْ وَاسْمَعُوا وَأَطِيعُوا وَأَنْفِقُوا خَيْرًا لِأَنْفُسِكُمْ ۗ وَمَنْ يُوقَ شُحَّ نَفْسِهِ فَأُولَٰئِكَ هُمُ الْمُفْلِحُونَ

            So fear Allah as much as you are able and listen and obey and spend [in the way of Allah ]; it is better for your selves. And whoever is protected from the stinginess of his soul - it is those who will be the successful.

            Abu Abdul Bari
            IslamicAnswers.com Editor

      • Dear Mawlana Abdul Bari,...

        #1 My challenge was not to Islam but to (in this case you) or anyone who says wearing trousers is haram,. And it seems it still stands. You can not find a hadith or ayat that says wearing trousers is haram.

        #2 You claim that scholars condemn woman who wear the "salwar" and "kamese" out in Public,. Yet you have quoted any of those scholars here ? why is that ?

        #3 You claim that we do not look at one hadith and proclaim something halal or haram. (Quite right in your words) ,Yet you quote one hadith (that does NOT support your claim), that wearing trousers is haram ? At best may only INDICATE what Aisha and some of the woman sahaba did at the time the ayat of veiling was revealed but does not out line what is haram or halal or what is feminine or what is masculine.

        #4 The hadith you indicated also is neither an indication that female clothing is now then limited solely upon what those woman sahaba were wearing at that time.

        #5 The aim of woman veiling is covering her ornaments meaning not revealing her beauty. So long as this condition is met then she is ok. The problem is many literalist only look at the letter of the law and not at what the law is saying. The Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam saw that Asthma was wearing thin clothes hence he kindly advised her that when a woman who reach puberty should cover themselves.
        Again,. In America THOBES are no different then abayas . If you say then the abaya is different simply because of its design then I will tell you that there are many TROUSERS that are specifically designed for Muslim woman. And many Dresses specifically designed for men ? now what shall we do ?

        • Bashir, read my comments. Your challenge is irrelevant to my comments - pants being haraam. And you are the one who is giving fatwas so should I call you mawlana Basheer? lol...

          You are quoting the American culture against the Islamic ruling... :)

          I give up the argument now, because I have passed the message to the readers. And May Allah Give us the Tawfeeq.

          Abu Abdul Bari
          IslamicAnswers.com Editor

  11. Quickly just want to mention Abdul bari ,...What Muslims from over seas need to understand is that American Muslims are STRUGGLING JUST TO FULFILL THE SHARI'AH, because of the mass oppression on Muslims and the stigmas that terrorism has placed on us here....so trying to go above and beyond shari'ah is very very hard for most muslims. As Muslims we struggle to give dawah to each other and to non Muslims educating them against islamaphobia and spreading Islam,...but there is a lot of shaytaans and hate here for Muslims that is incomprehensible to many who live is majority Islamic environments such as Pakistan.So our struggle is to uplift muslims IN REALITY although it seems like we are telling them to go against shari'ah,we look at it as taking the rukhsa or dispensation rather than going against the shari'ah. We don't want to chase people away from Islam, but to show its differences which according to hadith is a mercy of Allah.

    • I know, brother. If you reread my second last comment, there is an Aayah, which says fear Allah as much as you can. This is what one must do, striving to follow the Quran and the Sunnah as they mean, as the Salaf understood. But due to that we don't call what is hraam - halaal. It remains haraam, but due to their weakness, people fail to act on the law and they must strive to keep themselves content with Allah's Law, with what He Has Ordained through His Rasool. I hope you got the point.

      I would also like to point that the hadith "differences of my Ummah is Rahmah" is not Saheeh. I am not sure if it is da'eef or mawdoo' as I heard from the Ulama, but it certainly is not sound in its chain. The Ummah needs to unite, not differ.

      Abu Abdul Bari
      IslamicAnswers.com Editor