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My wife and mother in law accused of doing sihr on my brother.

Suspicion, suspicious thoughts

Assalam alaikum

Please help me with my dilemma. My brother and his wife claimed recently that my wife and her mother are doing sihr (black magic) on them which caused my brother to loose gold, his clothes and now their children see lot of scary faces that dont let them sleep all through the night.

They also claimed that my wife reads some quranic aayah from surah yaseen and surah muzammil on a daily basis that may also be causing them problems because it is not read the right way.My brother got ruqayah done and his 12 yr old son started to see my wife's face and her mothers too.

He said that they are using somebody else also to send jinns to trouble him. Alhamdullillah the ruqayah is helping my brothers family. When I asked my wife if she or her mother are doing such a thing, she denied it.

Then i had a conference talk with me, my wife, my brother and his wife. My wife took an oath on quran that she is not doing anything to harm my brothers family and similarly my brothers wife took an oath on quran saying that she and her son see my wife and her mother doing magic on them. During the conversation, it revealed to me that my wife called somebody periodically to pray dua for me.

This person is supposedly a family friend of my father in law and does dua for many people. I also found out that he does probably black magic. When I asked my wife why she did not tell me about being in contact with this person, she said she called him only to make dua for my exams etc but never to harm anybody and she did not tell me because she thought I would be mad at her. She is apologizing to me and saying she will never contact him again and never knew that he did Sihr. I also found out that my brother's son is seeing things, that this person is doing magic and sending demons to harm him. I am so confused.

The questions I have are:
1) How should I know if my wife or her mother are not doing this knowingly

2) If my wife has done this unknowingly thinking that she is asking somebody to just pray for me,will she be still considered a muslim and stay in my nikah

3) If I find out later that she is still doing this,how should I deal with it

4)What kaffara should I prescribe her if she accepts that she did this unknowingly or knowingly.

5) Can I have sexual relations with her till this is sorted out.

6) Is there a fatwa I can get (email /post ) to confirm the rulings about this scenario.

Please help me - I have 3 kids and I dont want my family to disintegrate, but I dont want to diverge from the path of islam as well.

Jazakallah khair

- Hyder 707


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  1. Assalamu Aleikum Hyder 707,

    Today seems to be the day of my topics. Sihr is a severe accusation, believe it or not, because of a similar

    issue there is a war between my husband's family and mine at the moment. The problem with Sihr is( and I

    even witnessed one of my relatives doing it in action) that although it may be clear to you, the people who

    cooperate with Shaytan will never admit it. Don't even think of talking about it loudy without any proofs.

    It's only going to cause friction in your family. It may be possible that your wife is telling the truth- that

    this person makes bad dua( also a form of Sihr) for others and it affected your brother. You'll never know.

    Do you think if somebody cooperates with the Jinn, they wouldn't lie to you???? They have crossed so

    many boundaries, they are never honest and admit it. With the right protection, it doesn' t have an effect.

    But why did your nephew see your wife's and her mother's face during the ruqya? This is weird- she may

    have ordered the man to perform Sihr. Maybe you know that the average consumer is not learned on Sihr.

    You need to go to a Sahir(magician) or a person writing duas for others to perform Sihr or to reach an effect.

    It is not excuse to say I told him to make dua for the rest of the family. Since then do we order people to make

    special duas for us? The tradition of dua nevisi( farsi: writing duas for others) is widespread and falls into

    the category of Jadoo if it's negative dua. I absolutely don't have a clue how to live with a person doing

    black magic under one roof. I'm sure the editors can help you, or another expert. The aspect with sexual

    intercourse is important as well, somebody could post a link about this.

    Although she may have done it, there is the possibility that she is innocent, don't forget that. You haven't

    seen her doing it in action- and as long as she denies it, it is an accusation. Swearing on the Qu'ran that

    we have done or not done something is primitive. The Qur'an becomes a tool for liars, and believe me:

    Somebody who is audacious enough to perform Sihr doesn' t respect the Qur'an.... their vow is invalid(if

    they did it).

    I still recommend you to be careful, do some more investigation( although your nephew's vision was clear)

    and consult an Imam or Sheikh who is learned in this field. I know myself how afraid you are at the moment,

    and it scares everybody who has to deal with it. I pray for your brother that no Shaytan can affect his life,

    and no jinn will ever enter their minds. I pray for you and all Muslims and I also pray for those performing it

    because they have to be healed from their jealousy and envy.

    But don't forget: Sihr is a big sin, lying a smaller one. The one who commits a big sin is not afraid of

    committing a smaller one. Avoid swearing on our holy book, it's not a tool.

    Take the measures of precaution, but in secret. The more you talk about it, the more dangerous the

    situation becomes. If there is a 1 per cent possibility that your wife is honest, the sin will be on your shoulder.

    If you continue addressing this issue, they will start attacking each other, and you haven't done anything

    against the Sihir.

    I wish you good luck

  2. As salamu alaykum, Hyder,

    I am not qualified to answer your question, you should talk to an Iman to have proper, qualified answers to your question.

    What I can tell you is the following, I agree with Jannah once this is on the table, don´t talk about it anymore, but talk to your brother, he should protect himself and his family from all of this, I believe he knows already the ways. And you should take into account your salats on time, prayers, surah 112,113,114, three times at night, ayat al-kursi and Al -Fatihah before going to sleep, insha´Allah.

    I don´t know a way to know if your wife has good or bad Heart only Allah(swt) knows, but I always keep Hope for those who has lost the straight way consciously or not, to repent and go back to Allah(swt), insha´Allah.

    Children are very sensitive, your brother should work on protecting them and the home seriously, without being scared, this is a moment to be well grounded and work with a cold head to get rid of all this negativity, insha´Allah.

    I know that our first instinct as human beings, specially when we feel our little ones touched, is to be really annoyed and with this, negativity is fulfilling its task, darkening the Light. But we know that the way to get rid of darkness is through light, then let´s put our Hearts to work, forgiveness is one of the steps, too.

    Tell your brother that it doesn´t matter at this point who is causing the damage, that the damage is done and he need to solve the situation, with this I am not disminishing the importance of who did it, but I wouldn´t focus on who, because that will create poison in their heart towards this people and this will atract even more negativity, and what they want it is to get rid of it, insha´Allah.

    Then when the children are able to see the faces or feeling the presences, teach them how to look refuge in Allah(swt) to get rid of them, would be good if they learn ayat al-kursi from Heart to expel them from their side, and some dua of protection from evil eye, but always remembering how vulnerable they are, this will help them to see that Allah(swt) will protect them, always, this way they will feel protected even when the parents are not there, in this kind of situations is good to remember that Allah(swt) is Al-Malik, Alhamdulillah.

    If our bond to Allah(swt) grows, the negativity we can have around or inside will manifest through struggles to be able to acknowledge its presence and be able to get rid of it, this is a blessing even when it can appears as something bad at the begining. Then I would let the doubts and the fear on a side and I would work for real in the Straight Path myself, asking Allah(swt) to give me the blessing to be senses open for whatever I have to acknowledge in my life and the capability to move closer to Him(swt) thanking all the trials because the main motive of them is to purify my Heart, Alhamdulillah.

    After listening to some cases here in the site, I´ve seen that the only way to not let this negativity get close to us is protecting ourselves through our prayers and attitude, insha´Allah. I am sorry for not being of much help. There is a post of this site where you can read many interesting points about this, many people has been commenting there lately, it won´t be of much help in your case, but it may be interesting for you to read.

    http://www.zawaj.com/askbilqis/is-my-wife-suffering-from-sihr-black-magic/

    Someone told me once, that the biggest enemy of darkness was a soft, kind, loving, joyful Heart and from that time on, I try to be myself, step by step, that kind of Heart,always with Allah(swt)´s help, I know I have a lot to get there, but I will try my best until my last day in this life, insha´Allah.

    All my Unconditional Respect and Support,

    María
    IslamicAnswers.com Editor

  3. Assalamu Alaykom

    I am sorry to hear that you are suffering from such trials. May Allah swt ease any hardships that you are your family are enduring and may He also protect you and your family from any evil Ameen.

    I just wanted to state something that I believe could be important to the situation concerning the children. Children are very sensitive, as Sister Maria stated above, and they will pick up on any tension or feelings by their parents--or other adults around them. If there is talk about black magic being done and these talks are being done within ear-shot(where the children can hear) with names being spoken, children will automatically pick up on this. What I mean is, if they hear you all talking about this being done by certain people(naming names) if they have a scary dream--which is very common with children--it is logical that their dreams would include faces, names, or places that they have heard from others. For instance, if they hear your Brother and his wife--or others in the family--saying that so-and-so is trying to harm us, destroy us, it will be in their minds and could be played out in their dreams.

    While I am not saying that the dreams are not real to them, or the people in them, I want you all to remember that it is very likely that the children have heard something negative being said by someone and are simply keeping that in their minds. Therefore, any dreams or nightmares concerning what was talked about, in my opinion, has a perfectly logical explanation.

    I would advise that the family stop speaking of such things in front of the children. I would also advise that the parents not get too upset over it in front of them and instead turn towards Allah swt and show the children how best to deal with something such as this. If they see the parents afraid and crying or saying things that portray their fear, then this will only be exaggerated in the children. Children learn from their parents. They need and seek comfort and security from the parents, so if the parents are scared and saying things that little ears should NOT hear, then of course the children will begin to portray the same feelings. This is natural.

    Please make sure that your accusations concerning those involved are true before you end up ruining a marriage, family relationships, and also the innocent minds and hearts of small children. This is a very serious matter that should be kept away from the children and that should be dealt with accordingly--seeking the protecting of Allah swt only. A quran--a book--will not protect you, only Allah swt can do that.

    If you have such fears and concerns about your wife, try to pray and make dua that Allah swt removes any doubts in your heart concerning her and trust that He is the controller of all things. Not a speck of good or a speck of evil goes unnoticed by Him.

    And remember, if someone is planning something against you, some trick or evil doing, that Allah swt is also planning, and HE is the BEST of planners. Alhamdulilah

  4. Assalamu alaikkum everybody
    iam not here to answer anything, and Iam not a scholar. But I can explain U my experience the way I dealt with black magic very easily. Iam proud to say that Iam a nightmare to all black magicians who did their black magic to me. As a youth, I had not that much belief in quran. I thought its only a holy book. But the almighty allah showed me the right way. I lost my hair suddently and car accidents became a daily experience to me. And I saw so many dreams like snake bites me, and crocodile sleep with me.(the meaning of dreams are about the enemies). Atlast I came to know about the sihr. I approached so many scholars (100 s atleast!! ) to remove sihr which continueously coming to me. most of them are using their skill to live and make money. So one day I wished to learn it myself. I bought so many sihr related book which total worth $ 3000. and I practiced everything. Most of them were bathing and drinking with holy water. Its impossible for me to carry a bottle of water or leaves with me all time. Atlast I fiund it! !! The super spell in quran. Its known as 5 ayat of qaaf. Its an ayath with a special concentration on alphabat qaaf. Its started from baqra ends at ra_ad. Each surah includes one ayat. Continueously from baqra,alu imran,nisau,ma eda,and ra ad. I recited it three times and said "ya allah, if anybody did any blackmagic to me, remove it from me and send it back to the magician, make the magician blind and paralyised by the power of this ayat. When I did this I saw so many nighmares but I didnt stop doing this. ATLAST I GOT THE RESULT !! Today Iam happy with the result. One of my enemy who was reported to have said that " my magician said He (me) is beyond his limit..!!
    A youth like me, who is not doing namas regularly, wearing jeans, watching movies, even I got the result. Then I wonder whats the result would be if a very religious man or woman doing same.. Beware of allah dont use this for bad things it will be boomeranged. Allahu akbar!

    • mann-india, My guess is that it was all psychological on your part. You were suffering from some psychological problems that had psychosomatic effects like your hair falling out (this is known to be a side effect of stress). Finally you began to turn to Allah and the Quran, you found your strength, and you overcame your problems. Alhamdulillah. It's not because you "discovered" some secret in the Quran, or some secret combination of ayaat.

      Wael
      IslamicAnswers.com Editor

      • Dear brother wael, your " psychological answer" is typical which has been given for me for years. You think I lost my hair bcoz of stress.. Then the accident matter, your answer will be, no doubt, My poor driving skill. 40 accidents in 1 year..! Its easy to blame, but If it happened you once, you can easily understand its seriousness..

        • As salamu alaykum brother mann_india,

          You, your experience and your choices deserve all my respect, but I would like to share my personal opinion about it, if you don´t mind, insha´Allah.

          Brother if you want to do good, why do you want to wake up those energies? not everybody is able to manage that energy, can turn a person insane, ... Why instead of telling people to follow your guidance, don´t tell them to follow Allah(swt)´s guidance, instead of reading one surah, to read all the Quran, instead of eating a diet lacking proteins during *** days, to eat balanced, insha´Allah, have you wondered the consequences of lack of protein during those *** days? anyone can do it and you will get a goal with it, but is it the goal a proper reason to follow to do this?

          Please, always remember that in this life everything has at least two sides, and what can be good for you, maybe the worst for me.

          If you know what you say it is true for you, why do you have the need of showing to others you are right? If you hold the truth, just your Presence would be enough to shine through space and time and live beyond them, brother focus on Allah(swt) do your prayers (5 times a day at the call of the adhan), pray to Allah(swt) and recite His beautiful Names and attributes, fear Allah(swt) more than you feared those black magicians, live your own life, fully, and by yourself, you are the one blessed with life, trust Allah(swt) beyond any logical reason and He(swt) will show you the Straight Path, insha´Allah.

          When a person holds the truth and is close to Allah(swt) nobody is able to touch them without Allah(swt) permission, and if He(swt) gives His permission, He (swt) has given us the way through our beloved Prophet(saw) to be saved from it, Alhamdulillah.

          Brother you are more important to me that you could ever imagine, just for the fact of sharing with all of us, and showing how much you have cared about finding solutions, and now trying to help others the best way you know, but I would beg you to stop a minute and think twice before you practice again any of these magician prayers.

          You have the Holy Quran and you have the Sunnah, take it from a to z, and make it your blood, everyday read a line or ten and make it the air you breath, god deeper in your salat, in your knowledge and your wisdom, be closer to Allah(swt) showing respect, love and compassion to the other human beings(black magicians included, they will have to answer as all of us will have to do in the last day) we aren´t like they are, Alhamdulillah, insha´Allah.

          I can see how desperate you were and how a deep curious person you are, use all that huge capacity you have to study and research to be a holy man, insha´Allah, and when the time comes you will be a shining polished diamond that will show all the colours of the Universe in your eyes, insha´Allah.

          When we are ready, people get close to us, not due to us, that we are none, due to Allah(swt), for that day by day, we will try our best guiding all our efforts to be closer to Him(swt) using all the tools He (swt) has given to us, Alhamdulillah.

          Remember that a book written by a man, will be always a book written by a man.

          Allah(swt) knows best.

          Barak Allah Feekum

          All my Unconditional Respect,

          María
          IslamicAnswers.com Editor

    • ASAK Mann India,

      Can you please provide the ayats and their numbers that you used in your remedy. Can you please also explain how you used these ayats. Such as in what order you recited them an how many times you recited them. I would appreciate much a quick response.

      • I think it's strange that you ask him for his "remedy" without asking for any proof from Quran or Sunnah. The deen is not something we just make up as we go along. "Whoever innovates something new in this deen, it will be rejected."

        Wael
        IslamicAnswers.com Editor

        • Wael,

          I think it is "strange" that you seem to doubt the power of ayats taken from the Quran. I do not believe I need "proof from Quran or Sunnah" when asking about a remedy taken directly from the Quran itself. In addition, when one needs help and he turns to the words in the Quran provided by Allah (SWT), that is not considered making something up or innovating "something new". Rather, it is considered being grateful for Allah's rehmat and using the resources that Allah (SWT) has provided to us. As a believer in Allah (SWT) and the Quran, I do not think that Allah(SWT) would "reject" a believer's efforts to cure his problem with a remedy from the Quran.

          • If you have such faith in the power of the Quran, then why don't you simply recite it? Why do you need some unknown person who you don't even know to give you his "secret" combination of ayaat to recite? As if he has discovered something that even the Messenger of Allah (pbuh) did not know? Astaghfirullah.

            If there is a specific "remedy" that was mentioned by the Messenger of Allah (pbuh) then we should follow it. There are many powerful verses of the Quran. For example the Messenger of Allah (pbuh) said that whoever recites Ayat-al-Kursi before sleeping, Allah will appoint an angel to guard him until he wakes. I can say this because it was said by the Prophet (pbuh). I am not just making it up on my own.

            You are completely missing the point of the Quran. The Quran is the word of Allah, revealed to us to tell us how to live our lives. How to worship, be good people, how to believe, how to conduct our lives. It is not a book of spells or secret incantations that if you recite them 100 times on Friday at noon, your cancer will be cured.

            This fellow mann_india said that he does not even pray regularly, and yet he claims to have discovered the "super-spell" of the Quran as he called it. La hawla wa laa quwwata il-la billah. Are we so gullible that we will believe any nonsense that promises a quick fix? Our deen is not superstition and magic formulas.

            If you have a problem then pray, make dua', fast, praise Allah, recite Quran, and at the same time work to find a genuine solution.

            Wael
            IslamicAnswers.com

  5. Brother mannindia can you tell us which ayat you recited (ayat numbers)
    and if I may ask where did you find this remedy?
    Jazakallah khair

  6. Dear wael, its a typical answer which had been given for me for years. As. A graduate I have searched all scientific field to answer my question. And my hair loss is not because of stress. And my distant relative who was reported to have said to my old friend that , I will Make him bald soon. He was drunk at that time. Here, black magicians are saying they are doing magic and many persons and families are ruined by them. People are going behind them, because they get result. If sihr is a fake, then Why allah said its the second biggest sinn among 7 big sins? Brother wael, its easy to decline but its true. If I have mental problem, i wont read quran, i will go to mental hospital. Hope you are answered well.

  7. I think the above posting about reading Sura Jinn and getting answered by "new friends" is a little scary. I think many of the Islamic scholars say it is haram to try to bring the jinn under control or to use them. perhaps the mods could consider deleting that part about how to read sura *** for "new friends" as it might be dangerous or someone might actually try it for the wrong/haram reasons

    • Dear bro or sister Z
      I didnt mean to help anyone to enter the jinn world. But if you find its real, then of course there is kafir jinns. They are being used by black magicians.. Iam not an agent of any "sihr removing association". I share my experience, you are totally free to reject it.

      • I'm sorry if I misunderstood you, I'm sure you know in places like India people do do that sort of thing for the wrong reasons and what you had written reminded me of that. I apologize if I misunderstood your post.

  8. Salaams to all who come here to get good advice and offer it. Like others, I am not a scholar, but an older parent with a lot of life experience. First, it is most important to call on Allah for every single need you may have. In the case of unexplained baldness, you should ask Allah to increase your good appearance along with increasing your ibadah. You should also "tie your camel" so to speak in that you should also consider your diet. Stress and poor diet has proved to leave many men and women with poor skin and hair conditions.

    It is not necessary for one person to go to a more learned person to say prayers for a loved one. Only Allah knows whose prayers, dua, and request to Him are heard, listened to and granted. A person with a lifetime of personal failures may turn to Allah for mercy and forgiveness and a learned scholar may ask Allah to give him blesssings. Allah may extend His Mercy to the person trying to turn their life around. Allah's capacity to improve or repair a person's life can not be measured. And he extends His Bounty to whoever He chooses.

    The family with the accusations about magic should leave this matter alone. Without sound evidence, people should accuse others of such wickedness. Those who have accused should make some type of taubah and also apologize to the wife and her family for this wrongdoing. Unless they heard her praying for something bad to happen, they should not accuse her of doing this. This situation will create friction between the families and that is another evil. All based on personal misfortune and the complaints of children. My personal feeling is that there is ill will between the husband's family and his wife and mother-in-law, and whatever is going on has gotten out of hand to the point where the children are affected. I would advise the husband to make dua and extra prayers and ask Allah to guide him and protect him in the event there is something going on that is haram. His wife should make dua herself if she is concerned for her husband and avoid having others pray for him. Asking a religious person specifically to pray for someone as if they are in a business is not Islamic. Insha Allah, this matter will be rectified and the family members will soon realize what is really important. We all have to answer to Allah in every detail of our lives. Keeping good family relations is of the highest importance. This family should keep this in mind.

    May Allah forgive us for our shortcomings and increase us in our knowledge and understanding of Islam.

    Note to the Husband: Many times we are advised to take the "high road" in a difficult situation where we feel we have been wronged. The "high road" is a lovely place to be, but spacious because so few people chose to walk it. The good thing is that when we do take the "high road", we don't have to apologize to anyone, second guess ourselves and although we may be sad or uncomfortable for a while (not arguing with someone, being angry with someone or letting an offense go), it benefits everyone involved. And this is pleasing to Allah.

  9. CORRECTION: A person should NOT accuse anyone of anything without sound evidence. (As I said I am older Muslimah -- with not perfect vision and new to the laptop keyboard.)

    May we all make salah in Jannah.

  10. My elder brother’s wife is our enemy:
    I am a married women .
    I have 02 elder brother. My big elder brother is mentally good but always follow her wife’s all advice. 2nd brother is not good and he also follow his wife’s all advise. Both wife’s are bad in mentality and attitude. They are always misguide their mother in law and all sister in laws. They throughout their mother in low from her house and do not give her food for eat. My brothers wife donot take care their mother and sister in low. They are bull sheet/stupid in relation. They want no body will come to their house. They are harmful for my mother and my family. Pls advise what we will do from protect them.

    • jahan, please register and submit your question as a separate post, and we will advise you in turn, Insha'Allah. And please provide more details, such as who owns the house, where the mother-in-law is living now, etc.

      Wael
      IslamicAnswers.com Editor

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