Is Nikah between shia and sunni haraam?
I am a Sunni girl and in love with a guy who is Shia! My family would say yes on only one conditio: if a nikaah between Shia and Sunni halal?
PLEASE LET ME KNOW if you know any maulvis/muftis who don't give me a biased opinion.
Let me know ASAP!
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Asalaamualaykum Sister,
I found a similar question answered by Muhammad ibn Adam, of Darul Iftaa and Central Mosque in Leicester, UK. I have read it and it makes sense to me. I hope you find it useful insh'Allah.
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http://www.central-mosque.com/fiqh/shiamar1.htm
Q:) I have spoken to a lot of people regarding this issue please be so kind to give me the right advice.
Basically please tell me the difference between Sunni and shi’a. Myself am sunni follow the Hanafi fiqh, however to cut along story short I met this guy he was shia. He proposed and then obviously I was faced with all these issues? I would just like to know your understanding of sunni shia marriages and the major differences.
I have actually declined but I still need reassurance. I have read your webpage and am in agreement with all you say that’s why I think you will not give me a biased view and maybe just reassure me that my decision was right!?
In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful,
A:) The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) himself explained that the primary consideration in choosing a spouse should be their Deen.
In a Hadith recorded by many Hadith scholars, the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said:
“A woman is married for four reasons, her wealth, lineage, status and Deen. Choose the one who is religious.” (Sahih al-Bukhari)
This also applies to women, in that a man is married for four reasons.
“Deen” is a very comprehensive word. It does not only mean praying and fasting. Rather, it relates to one’s entire conduct of life.
Therefore, it covers:
1) Belief (Aqidah)
2) Outward worship (Ibadaat)
3) Good character and manners (Akhlaq)
4) Good dealings with others (Mu'amalaat)
5) Turning to Allah in all affairs (Suluk)
Therefore, the first and foremost thing that should be considered before marrying someone is their religious belief and conduct of life.
With regards to marrying a Shi’a man, firstly, it should be understood that there are two types of Shi’as.
a) Those who hold beliefs that constitute disbelief (kufr), such as having the belief that the Qur’an has been altered, Sayyiduna Ali (Allah be pleased with him) is God, the angel Jibril made an error in descending with the revelation on the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) rather than Sayyiduna Ali (Allah be pleased with him), accusing Sayyida Ai’isha (Allah be pleased with her) of committing adultery or denying the Companionship (suhba) of Sayyiduna Abu Bakr (Allah be pleased with him).
The great Hanafi jurist, Imam Ibn Abidin (Allah have mercy on him) states:
“There is no doubt in the disbelief (kufr) of those that falsely accuse Sayyida Ai’isha (Allah be pleased with her) of adultery, deny the Companionship of Sayyiduna Abu Bakr ( Allah be pleased with him), believe that sayyiduna Ali (Allah be pleased with him) was God or that the angel Jibril by mistake descended with the revelation (wahi) on the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give peace), etc… which is apparent Kufr and contrary to the teachings of the Qur’an.” (Radd al-Muhtar, 4/453)
Therefore, Shi’as who hold such beliefs are without doubt out of the fold of Islam.
b) Those who do not hold beliefs that constitute Kufr, such as believing that Sayyiduna Ali (Allah be pleased with him) was the rightful first Caliph after the demise of the Messenger of Allah, belief in the twelve Imams, etc…
Such Shi’as cannot be termed as out of the fold of Islam, rather they are considered to be severely deviated and transgressors (fisq).
Imam Ibn Abidin states:
“It is difficult to make a general statement and judge all the Shi’as to be non-believers, for the scholars have agreed on the deviation and defection of the deviated sects.” (ibid)
It should be remarked here that some members of the Shi’a community display outwardly not to have believes that constitute Kufr, but keep these beliefs in their heart, which they call Taqiyya.
The case with such people is that if they did hold beliefs that constitute Kufr in their heart but outwardly denied them, then even though according to Allah and in the hereafter they will be regarded as non-Muslims, but we will judge them according to their outward statements and actions.
The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) is reported to have said: “I have been ordered to judge people according to their outward condition.”
Keeping the above in mind, it becomes clear that marrying Shi’as that are not considered Muslims is out of the question. If one was to marry such a person, the marriage (nikah) would be invalid.
Shi’as that are not considered to be out of the fold of Islam are still regarded to be severely deviated, thus marriage with them also should never be considered, although the Nikah will be valid. This becomes more important when the case is of a Sunni Muslim girl marrying a Shi’a boy, as the affect this can have on the wife and children may be detrimental.
In conclusion, the decision you made not to marry a Shi’a boy is correct indeed. It could have long term damages with regards to your beliefs and your children’s beliefs. There are many Sunni practicing pious brothers you could get married to. May Allah bless you with a pious and caring husband.
And Allah knows best
Muhammad ibn Adam
Darul Iftaa
Leicester , UK.
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SisterZ
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
kindly explain in the light of Holy quran as well as hadith of prophet pbuh . i have heard that prophet said in hadith " muslim can marry any girl from ahli kitaab means followers of earlier prophets on which Holy books have been revealed. like christians, jews, etc ....please justify me
The purpose is to clarify on a number of misperception that have been pointed out in this message regarding shias so to guide the girl as well the entire Sunni community.
First Shia DOES NOT believe that naoozobillah Hazrat Jibrael (A.S.) could make an error, or that Hazrat Ali (A.S) ought to be Nabi (PBUH) or God (naoozobilla). Nossayris have these beliefs and Nossaris or Alawaittes are basically NOn Muslims. There are two main religious schools in Shitte community: Hoza-e-Qum and Hoza-e-Najaf and both of them have fatwas against Nossaires and they declared anyone who claim Hazrat Ali (A.S) to be God (Naozobillah) to be a non-Muslim.
Second, Shitte believe that Islam gives ultimate precedence to life so if your life is in danger and the person, if he known that you are a Shitte, will kill you, then to save your life you can hide your identity from him. This is taqqiya. Taqqayiah is only practiced when there is some sort of danger to life. So again, it is not the case that a Shitte will say to you that he doesn't believe in this and that but he does. And again, as you mentions Muslims have been asked to judge people based on what they are saying and not to make wrong prejudices against them based on their own perceptions. Shak is prohibited in Islam and many of the misperceptions between Shitte and Sunnis are because of based on what we think the other one believes not in what the other says he believes. This needs to be changed.
Agree.
Well said. Actually most of these so called scholars dont even know their own sect, but are creating misunderstandings. Even sunnis have belief that if there would be any Messenger after Hazrat Muhammad P.B.U.H that is Hazrat Umar ? is it not shirk? are they not out of fold of islam?
This is said by our beloved prophet that if there would be. Any nabi after me was hazarat umer but he clearly says "IF" so plz don't mix hazarat Mohammad (P.B
U.H) was, is n will Muslims last (messenger)PROPHET sent by ALLAH TALLA
I have a question about Waqia e Karbala..... I'm a sunni muslim and I'm confused because my parents says that at the time of waqia e Karbala people who killed the family of our beloved P.B.U.H were actually the people of yazeed who are now known as shia.....they cry because before the war they didn't knew that it was the family of Rasool Allah (S.A.W.W) ..... And they will cry till the day of the judgment as a punishment as said by Allah Pak.....
I am confused about this .... please guide me what is right
Warda, these are not important issues. But in any case, your mother is not exactly right, or you understood her wrong.
Husayn (RA) and the other cousins and relatives of the Prophet were invited to Kufa, which is in Iraq, by the people there. Those people sent him a letter saying that if he came to Kufa they would support him to become khalifah. Yazid heard about this and sent an army to intercept Husayn and his group. The people of Kufa, instead of supporting Husayn, abandoned him. Partly because they were afraid of Yazid's army, and partly because they had been bribed. So Yazid's army killed Husayn and almost all of his followers.
The people of Kufa were ashamed of what they had done in abandoning Husayn. They formed an armed group and began to retaliate against the men who killed Husayn. They hunted them and killed them one by one. It was from that armed group that the Shiah developed. So the Shiah came from the people of Kufa who promised to support Husayn, then left him to be killed.
But as I said, these are matters of history. They are not important for our faith. The Shiah do obsess over these matters, because their fath is based on their shame and anger over historical events, with Karbala being at the center. But for Sunnis, our faith is based on the Quran and Sunnah, not on the history of what came after. So while it's good to know those later historical events, our religion is not based on them.
Wael
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
Why is it always Sunni girl and Shia guy....They make it there duty to enforcing there beliefs..How many times have you seen it the other way round I havent. The minute you marry him you will change. So will your kids be brought up as shia....
Its simple. What other better way to be accepted into a community than marrying into them, so that it becomes impossible for them to separate right from wrong.
same has happened to me
the guy with me is shia and forcing me to convert i am confused what to do
Assalam-Alekum,
Asking you to convert essentially means that he does not think that you are a muslim. I can only say to you to not follow shia/sunni. Just follow islam. What Allah(s.w.t.) and his Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.) told. Only judge companions of Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.) if you think that your are pious enough to judge them.
Study what your beliefs are and then decide what you have to do. But to be sucessful in this life and hereafter one only need to follow what Allah s.w.t and Prophet Muhammad (s.a.w.) told.Nothing less nothing more.
regards,
True! very aptly put.
m also with a shia boy but he or his family members never forced me to convert.... they all like me the way i am..
my husband is also shia but he never force me nd i also never force him to convert he is so loving nd good beleiver of God alhumdulillah kindly first of all correct ur own imaan inshallah no one force u to change ur aqeeda my marriage is not love its arrange but i have no kinaa about shia nd he too Allah knows best every thing
Hi please contact me i want to ask u some questions because i m in love with a shia boy and we want to convince our families .please help me out
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Wael
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
Did you get what you wanted. Did you get married to shia boy. Because I'm facing the same issue the girl is from alhle tashee and I am from ahle sunnat.
Hi, I need ur help
Can u plz explain how the nikkah is operational in this case same i fave mow days i am shia and i wnt to marry a girl who is sunni dje agreed with this but want to know how nikkah will valid my consider is that nikah shoul be done on shia way
Dear sister . The people who misguiding you from the right path even if they are your parents , you should stay away from them . If you want to achieve something you should lose something . So it's on you the right path or wrong path . Everyone know that Shia's are not complete Muslims so think of it before you take any decision .
I'm shia, i believe in "la ilaha illallah, Muhammad rasulollah", in the day of judgement, in the angels, I make my five daily prayers, fast during Ramadan, and believe in Quran.
Now, please explain to me how I'm not a "complete muslim"? What do I lack to become a "complete muslim"?
How could a person be "half muslim"? Either you are a muslim or you are not, there is no such thing like "incomplete muslims".
He is clearly a salafi/takfeeri and obviously an ignorant, ignore him.
truth always dominates
I so agree with you, I just pray that our sisters would understand such a thing also.
Then there is a good news for you. I am a Shitte and I am marring a Sunni guy and we both have no plan to convert the other. I know many such couples. My maum married as Sunni girl and he never converted her. She is still a Sunni. My two cousins marry a Sunni girl and none forced their better half to convert. I know a girl, however, who got married to a Sunni guy and is converted now and I have no objection to this. We needs to open our minds and understand that Islam allows a girl marrying a Muslim and unless you belong to ones who believe in takfir you can marry a Shitte.
Is it really jaiz in islam to marry a shia girl? Because the girl i love is a shia . I know her parents wont allow her to change so what shall i do ? 🙁 i am tensed too much
Shia are also Muslims, u have no right to say that they are kafir or non Muslims, n nikah is valid n jaiz with Shia girl or boy,
Because in Islam mentioned that for a Muslim is compulsory to have imaan on Allah is one, 2, holy books, 3, prophets 4, Angels and 5 on akhrat/ qayamat, so no body can say that Shia are not Muslims. N one more thing firstly u should make ur self a good Muslim n after that point out any body else
asalam.o.alaikum, I am sunni girl nd want to marry a guy who is shia , the guy is shia just because his father nd forefather was shia but his mother is sunni , nw the main prob which i am facing , while i discussed this issue to many members of my family in form of hints , all they said that marrige of shiaand sunni is not jaaiz , if they do so their relation will be haram , now being a muslim and human , I can use my mind and can say the one who is following islam believing all those point due to which a person comes in circle of islam , then how it could be possible that its haram to marry a shia (girl/boy) with sunni (girl/boy). pls help me by giving me proper references , so tthat I will go to save my life nd future , I am damn confuse nd do not want to leave him , as someone said that no need to eat anything with shiyas , but I know its very wrong thinking , as our holy prophet many times drink water or eat somethings from "kafirs"
Then y shia r not Hafez if they believe on our holy book Quran e paak
zara it is not that it is always a sunni girl and a shia guy its other way around it is in my case i have seen many
fara ur mind is narrow. i think ur very far from islam. u should better read quran. and hadess of ahlbait rasool s.a.w.w
Not really, my dad is sunni and mum shia however, I am shia. You can't become anything automatically you need to get a knowledge about both faiths at first.
Please give me some shia reality
If Shia are kafir then why are they allowed to go into the domain of Kabba?
Reason is very simple... Shia are not kafir. If so then the whole area of Kabba would have been Najis.
Dont you agree. And how is it possible to preform your religious duties in the state of Najisat?
Salaams,
Shia's are NOT Kafir. As we believe in Allah SWT and the Holy Prophet (May peace be upon Him). We follow our beloved Holy Prophet and The Holy Quran. So how can Shia's become Kafir's???? I would not have been Know by the name: Mohammed Ali as above if i was a kafir!!!
This is not a logic.qadiyani are non muslims and they also visit kabba in disguise.
Iran is officially Shia Islamic Country , Saudi Arabia never disallowed them for performing haj
Assalamu Aleikum dear Sister Z,
I'm really astonished that an intellectual person like you is impressed by this very provocative and polemic
description of Shias. This is definitely not the main perspective of Sunni scholars and an exception.
Nobody has the right to call others unbelievers, or are Non-Muslims right when they say we can't be
taken seriously because we aren't united? Are they right when they say that we can't be partners for
dialogue because we fight each other from within?
First, a few misconceptions have to be clarified:
1) To say Imam Ali is God is Shirk and all Shia scholars acknowledge that. Only the Sufis or some sects claim Ali is God
To spread that Shias believe in Ali being a God is an outright fallacy
2) Taqqiya means when you are threatened to death or the Saudi government wants to chop off your head,
you don't say "Ashado ana Aliyan vali Allah" , you leave out that part of the Shia Shahada that may lead to
your assassination; during the Osman empire, many Shias had to hide their beliefs wich lead to the
development of Alawis. That's Taqqiya, not more, not less. To claim anything else is a lie.
3) The issue of Aisha's alleged infidelity with Saffwan Ibn Muattal, one of her childhood friends,
can be found in Sunni Books, I have never heard this story from the mouth of a Shia. She had lost
her necklace on one of the trips, left her mahmel, and looked for it. Safwan found her there and took her
home the next day. Afterwards, the whole of Medina was outraged. They called her "Aisha Fahisha"(
astaghfirullah) and everybody was suspicious. Then the verse was revealed about the prohibition to
falsely accuse people of adultery and that there was a punishment with the wip. This is acknowleged by
both Sunnis and Shias, it doesn't even have anything to do with the sect you belong to. I admit that
Shias don't hold Aisha very dear, but nobody would dare to call one of the Mothers of the Believers
a zaniya and she deserves this position( of Umm ul Momineen) as one of the wives of Rassul Allah.
There are so many prejudices against Muslims as a whole and instead of holding together and trying
to convince the world that we are strong and proud of our diverstiy, we fight each other from within.
It is indeed very sad that there are voices within Islam which aim to disunite us. I think we should be proud
of our different schools of law and our diversity, instead of claiming to hold the truth. Wallahu Alam, who
knows the truth but Allah? If someone calls Shias Kafir or even non-Muslims Kafir, then this person doesn't
deserve to live in the Western democracy. The Qur'an uses the expression "Kafir " for the inhabitants of
Mecca who fought our beloved messenger. Rassul Allah refered to the Christians and Jews as religions of
the book. He would have never called anyone Kafir who didn't fight him or had a monotheistic
faith. Living in the West means living in a society with people of different attitudes, beliefs and sexual
orientations. Someone who calls others Kafirs, and even goes so far and calls his own brother in faith a
Kafir, someones who thinks that it's "either his way or the highway" , I'm sorry, but he can live in Afghanistan
or go to a conservative society in which he can condemn everybody because he's different.
I don't know any single Shia scholar who would dare to say , in public, that Sunnis are Kafirs. This
should make you think.
Last but not least, one of the most beautiful comments of my beloved Commander of the Faithful:
A human being is either your brother in faith or your equal in humanity. Equal in humanity means even
if he's gay or Wahabi, Hindu, or Buddhist, he deserves my utmost respect and not the classification of a
Kafir who fought Rassul Allah.
Fi Aman Allah, nice evening:)
Jannah
Salam alekum Jannah, Mashallah a beautiful response.
I am also shocked with SisterZ's comment..Sister i never thought you would point out the differences like that..it feels like its not fair. I mean i never thought sunnis r kafr..because both sunni and shia muslims share nearly same islamic beliefs and faith.
Although shia muslims are followers of (Ahl-la_bayt). I dont get it..Sunni muslims accepts the prophet Mohammahd but they might reject Ali (as) and or the 12 imams. Who are of the prophet's family. Ali (as) was also the first to accept Islam and was appointed by the Prophet to become his successor (shia belief).
It hurts..because Im A shia muslim and im thinking that SisterZ considers me kafr 🙁 ..but i have never ever considered the sunni followers to be non-believers. This misleading views or beliefs have caused many conflicts between sunni and shia muslims which is unfortunate. Great weakness sending wrong messages to others about Islam. Instead we should work together in peace to spread the religion of Allah (Islam).
good one jannah....even though i m a sunni still i totally agree wid u.....we should believe only in allah and say dat we r muslims....it doesnt matters whetther one is shia or sunni...all r equal...we should respect all religions equally....
SUBHANALLAH, wonderful!!
ALLAH blesses all muslims with the thaoughts and way of taking thinks like you!
ALLAH shower his countless blessing on you and your family.
Regards,
Faiza Wahab
Assalaamualaikam
Brother Mahmud, I would ask you to try to be more gentle in your words. If someone is in error, it is better to guide them with kind but firm advice than to use harsh terms and accusations.
Midnightmoon
IslamicAnswers.com editor
wa alaykumusalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh
Ok I agree.
yeah u r right
i want 2 know about shia and sunni marriage m sunni girl nd want to marry a shia boy to whom i love help me plz nd tell me is it possible m waiting
maimoon, please read the answers already given to this post and similar published posts.
Wael
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
As Salam Aalikum Wa Rehmatullah Wa Barakatuh,
Who was the Prophet (SAW). Was he a Shia, Sunni, Malaki, Ahmedi, Shaf'i, Hanafi..etc..etc. He was a "Muslim". Allah (SWT) says in the Glorious Quran that you're a "Muslim". There is no such thing as "sectarianism" in Islam. And Allah says in the Quran: "Verily, those who divide their religion and break up into sects (all kinds of religious sects), you (O Muhammad SAW) have no concern in them in the least. Their affair is only with Allah, Who then will tell them what they used to do." (6:159)
Allah (SWT) tells us to follow Him and his Messenger (SAW) in the Quran: "O you who believe! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger (Muhammad SAW), and those of you (Muslims) who are in authority. (And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger (SAW), if you believe in Allah and in the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for final determination." (4:59)
The Deen was completed and all matters of revelation came to a halt when Rasool Allah Sal Allahu Alahi Wasallam passed away. And Rasool Allah Sal Allahu Alahi Wasallam, said that innovation in Islam is "Bidah" and that is haram.
Hadith - Bukhari 9:391, Narrated Abu Huraira (RA)
The Prophet said, "Leave me as I leave you, for the people who were before you were ruined because of their questions and their differences over their prophets. So, if I forbid you to do something, then keep away from it. And if I order you to do something, then do of it as much as you can."
Hadith - Abu Dawud, Narrated Ali ibn Abu Talib (RA)
The Prophet said, If anyone introduces an innovation in the religion, he will be responsible for it. (Good or bad). If anyone introduces an innovation or gives shelter to a man who introduces an innovation (in the religion) he is cursed by Allaah, by His angels and by all the people.
And the Prophet (SAW) said:
ashabi kal-nujum bi ayyihim iqtadaytum ihtadaytum.
"My Companions are like stars. Whichever of them you use as a guide, you will be rightly guided."
The Prophet (SAW) also said:
"Allah, Allah! Fear Him with regard to my Companions! Do not make them targets after me! Whoever loves them loves them with his love for me; and whoever hates them hates them with his hatred for me. Whoever bears enmity for them, bears enmity for me; and whoever bears enmity for me, bears enmity for Allah. Whoever bears enmity for Allah is about to perish."
al-Qari said in his commentary on al-Shifa' (2:92)
And Allah (SWT) knows BEST.
Jazak Allahu Khairan.
MASHALLAH!
I am very happy reading thaoughts of such nice and decents people.
Regards,
Faiza
Atlast a fine comment that cleared all my doubts n fears regarding everything...JazakAllah
salam.............
there is no diffrence between shia and sunni.
both of them follow quran,
both of them belief there is no god except allah.
both of them follow 124000 prophets......
prophet adam has first and prophet muhammad(saw)has last prophet.
kaba and qibla is one.
sunni follows sahaba and ahlebaith
shia follows prophets house hold(ahlebaith) and sahaba of them.
the question comes in our mind what is the diffrence than??
only one thing!!
asia famous journalist mj akber
in one conference of 2008 he said about christian,hindu and muslim
in that he said about muslim
he said i have gone through both of thems book
both of them follow allah has god,prophets
,namaz ,fastings.haj,hijab,zakat.jihad etc
sunni gives more important to sahaba (companions).......
and shia gives more important to prophets ahlebait(household) .........
so one muslim can marry with other muslim..
and i am sunni .we cant say shia has kafir.
one group named called nusahri,sufi who lives more in syria.nauzobillah they says hazrath ali has god.
neither shia or sunni says .
wasalam
JazakAllah... u explained the difference of shia and sunni in a better way. Atleast u havnt spread wrong information.... and its Sadqa e Jaria.... Thanx
you are absolutely right.... m myself a sunni girl but belong to a shia family.... n i nearly know all the diffrences between a shia and a sunni..... we {shia and sunni} believe in one God Almighty Allah... we believe in quaran sharif... we both believe in Prophet Mohammed {PBUH}.... n the niqah between a muslim and a christian is not haram than why the niqah of a shia and a sunni is considered haram, its wrong........
I Agree with Sister Z , Shias are Kafir coz they abuse Nauzubillah to Umar R.A....Aiyesh R.A. and many more Sahabas...i live in a colony of Shias i know them very well they say Nauzubillah Ali R.A. was going to be the last prophet and when JIBRAEL A.S. came for the first wahi,our prophet Mohd and Ali R.A. were sitting together and Mohd stood first so to rceive Wahi so he was made Nabi.. they make posters of some sahabas name them and just urinates on them .if you all say no that we dont abuse them then i would like to ask tell me the name of any shia men in the world whose name is Umar or a female whose name is Ayesha...
Sister even i would advice to find any muslim guy to marry,coz its easy to convert any religious men to islam,but its damn hard to convert a Shia,coz to whome we love they abuse,insult...the things will get worse what your childrens will have effect there life will also be spoiled.
Allah hafiz
First of all plz understand the difference between Shia, Sunni n Nuseri. Sunni n shia both belive in 1 Allah, 1 Rasool s.a.w , and 1 Quran . and those who say La ilaha illallah Mohammad ur Rasool Allah, that person is a Muslim. u cant call it Kafir. and shia recite the same kalima.
yes there are few differences also, but they are not that big which can make a person as Kafir.
the people u may knew are Nuseri who thinks Ali a.s as such...
and if u r educated and know the whole story then its like that when Wahi came on Prophet s.a.w , he was 40 years and Ali a.s was 10 years child. so how can Jibrael miss understood... so plz plz plz dont spread such unethical and stupid things which the people will follow without confirmation. plz plz plz sit with some good shia aalim one day and discuss with him about their beliefs.. not with Nuseri who are kafir... plz dont mix Nuseris with shia.
i agree with u
Uff.......... Its a lot of discussion.... although the thing is simple....
ask ur self the minimum shari requirements of being a muslim...
these are explained in kalma-e-tayaab as:
1. there is no God but God
2. Muhammad (S.A) is Rasool Allah
then why go further and redefine the boundaries of being a muslim...
Im agree wid u
I agree With You Laibah namaz Janazais dfreent in shia and sunni
Salam,
Many brother and sisters here are confused btw nuseri and shias,so plz dnt mix them.Nuseries are no doubt kafirs and doing shirk...
w.salam
Your mind is corrupted by the Saudi Wahabbi school which is destroying Islam.They are not muslims.You mean you spread lies like many do?.When wad a Shia man ACTUALLY standing next to you and urinating on a picture/poster of the sahabas?.First lie cos there dont ecist pictures of the sahabas.Probably you are one of those who is an enemy of Islam spreading lies and happy to destroy our religion.Do you believe in Allah?.I doubt it.
In your attempt to counter Laibah, you make statements as offensive and closed-minded as hers. By declaring a group of Muslims as kuffar, you have put yourself firmly in the camp of extremists, and made Laibah's point for her.
Wael
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
As Salaamu Alaikum,
I agree with Hayate, Shias are not the problem instead they are our muslim brothers and sisters. The real problem is Wahabbism which thinks everyone else is Kafirs. Shiites and Sunnis have lived in peace for centuries and they can, very little practical differences. However, the Saudi Islam is the real threat to the world. Saudi Islam is the ally of the US and Israel oppressing all muslims of the world. (Check the news to know more about who is behind Palestinian and Syrian oppression).
It is high time we all unite and be one.
I am Shia and I believe no such thing so please I would appreciate if you didn't call me a kafur.
The Quote every Shia uses is ....YA ALI MADAD...(Oh Ali Help)...which is a Shirkiya Kalimat coz only Allah helps,we muslims are not even allowed to ask for help to our prophet,there Azaan is even different there kalma is different there namaz is different there hajj is done in karbala not in Mecca. ...how can they b muslims when they dont follow S.A.W. 's path...Many MAny great scholars have made them KHARIJ from islam..
Ignorance at its best. Their hajj is NOT done in karbala.
Im a Shia.
We do hajj in Karbala? Where did you here that from? That is not true.
Are you crazy? Please get your facts straight. There are too many misconceptions concerning what shias believe. We do NOT go to karbala for hajj.
Fatima dont worry, everybody will answer ALLAH on the day of judgement, if they are spreading such wrong and stupid informationa and misguiding muslims.
Faiza
Asalamu alaykum everyone I can see that there is ignorance about what the shias and shia scholars say about our prophet sallallahu alayhi wasallam and Abubakr,Umar and Aisha radhiallahu anhum. I advice you to listen to them carefully its not just about Ali and his family...it goes on...i heard a shia sheikh saying YA ALI,YA FATIMA,YA HUSAIN and seeking help from them ...if they were the same why do u think they have their own masajid and celebrations and rituals?...we see that on the TV every time... festivities by hurting themselves till bleeding you can refr to safa tv to know their truth.May Allah guide us all.
Well if they are shia then tell me what you are?? its very easy to blams on other that they are kafir or kharij from Islam. Did Anyone realize what we are. prayer or hajj is not the only way to jaanat. ITs farz, you will have to do that.
I want to say only not to blam others but to take a good look at our own homes. you will have a big Tv, watching movie, songs thats all are also haram then why you are watching tv, you will have a big poster of your own hanging on a wall, what is this nonsense, you will talking benfit from govnments, its also haram, benefits is only for poor people and UK , USA people are not poor. If it is haram and you are watching, then you are also kafir.
There is alots of more thing which is forbedden in Islam but yet we are doing them Just please dont say you are kafir, but at first look at your own what you are.
Thanks
JazakAllah Khair
i have no intentions to hurt anyones religion or emotions. . .I just want to know one thing. .Its like this. .
I am a hindu, and is it allowed in islam by anyway that i can marry a muslim girl..plz let me know.
I don't want her or myself to change our religion.
I just want to live with her peacefully for rest of my life and have beautiful kids like her..
Please tell me. Is this possible?
Roshan,
No it is not allowed for any Muslim to marry a Hindu. If you believe that there is only One God worthy of worship and you do not associate any partners with Him Almighty, this is what every Muslim believes so you are already half way to becoming Muslim. So what is stopping you studying Islam and accepting it?
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SisterZ
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
i am a shia by birth. i dont believe in the extended version of shia kalma. i dont believe hazrat ali is God or a prophet. i dont believe there have been alterations in quran. .
Allah is my saviour, Muhammad (SAW) is my prophet and yes ali (as) is my imam NOT god or prophet. and my haj is performed in kabba NOT in karbala. PLEASE get ur facts straightened up before making public declarations like that.
AND yes those who believe ali is god or prophet are NOT muslims . simple
The Shia/Sunni debate will cause a lot of heated arguments for sure, so my advice to the OP, do what you have been told is right. It is wrong to marry someone who doesn't believe in the Prophet PBUH as the final messenger and it is wrong to defy the Sahabah and Hadith and it is wrong if to defy Abu Bakr as the first Kaliph. So based on those facts, then you marrying this man would cause lots of turmoil in your family and the consequences could be anyone's guess.
Laila,
Dont worry my dear, you know neem hakem khatra e jan!!!
this tragedy of todays', the people never bother to study properly and comment easily... but for all of this bad things we are spreading about muslims, we have to answer it on the day of judgements.
so everyone have to keep this in mind before commenting others or saying a ALLAH and Rasool Beleiivers as non muslim.
Regards,
Faiza
Jannah @ Hats off .. I real contribution .Live long brother ...
PLS DONT MARRY A SHIA BOY OR SHIA GIRL!!!! cuz u have then more problems with a shia as with a jew or christ.. believe me.. i have experience in this section.. the end is talaq.. sisters and brothers be carefull.. wallahi..
assalamualeikum wr wb
dear jannah u said that kafirs are those who fought against Muhammad(s.a.w). In islam kafir is one who does not believe in oneness of GOD is called kafir. I agree with u that no muslim shia or sunni should be called kafir. but one who does not believe in GOD and his prophets, ANgels, BOOks And hereafter is called kafir. It is not an abuse. It means disbeliever. Islam has also taught to have love with non-muslims and to call them towards right path that is our farz.
I would also like to say that sunnis also believe in 12 imams.It is other sects that don't believe in imams not the sunnis.
Sunni Muslims do not believe in the twelve Imams, nor in the "Imamate" as a concept (the idea that rightful rule of the Muslim Ummah belongs only to destined Imams who are the descendants of Rasulullah sws, or that the Imams are infallible).
Wael
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
Salaams to all Brothers and Sisters in Islam,
Seeking of knowledge is obligatory on all Muslims whether Male or Female. This is one of the hadith of our beloved Holy Prophet SAW ( Peace be upon Him). Shia's believe in Imam Ali A.S as the first Caliph after the Holy Prophet SAW. There are many occasions where our Beloved Holy Prophet has clearly mentioned Sayyidna Ali as his successor. I have a question for my sunni brother's. How can the Muslims appoint Sayyidna Abu Bakr as the first Caliph when all muslims were not present at Saqifa where they went to elect the Caliph? How can Sayyidna Abu Bakr have a higher status that our beloved Holy Prophet SAW ( Peace be upon Him) to choose Sayyidna Omar as the Second Caliph and the Holy Prophet cannot Select Imam Ali A.S as the Caliph after his Farewell Pilgrimage in 10 A.H?? Please refer to the Event of Ghadir Khum where our Holy Prophet declares Sayyidna ALI A.S as his only successor. And there after the Verse of Surah Maidah which states 57 to 60 states : Verily you have completed the religion of Islam today and we have chose Islam as your religion. whose status is higher Our beloved Holy Prophet SAW or the first 2 Caliphs? All the 3 caliphs according to the Sunni's were chosen. Why can't the Holy Prophet SAW (Peace be upon Him) choose his successor?? There is also a lot of discrepancy on how these Caliphs are chosen. There is no particular patter in which they are chosen. When our Holy Prophet first declared Islam and that he had received the message from Allah SWT. His wife Khadija and Sayyidna ALI A.S were the first 2 people to accept Islam and all the 3 caliphs were present on that day. The Holy Prophet also said that who ever accepts the religion of Islam on this day will be my successor!! There are other events which also relate to the ayats of the Holy Quran where it is clearly stated that Imam ALI A.S. is the first and only caliph after the death of our beloved Holy Prophet. He was also married to Lady Fatima the beloved daughter of our Holy Prophet and was next of kin to the Holy Prophet SAW ( May peace be upon him). He was the Cousin of our Holy Prophet SAW. what other proof do you need to accept his Caliphat??
Every one pledged allegiance to Abu Bakr RA as the first caliph. Even Ali RA pledged allegiance to him.
Even in shia source ( Tafsir al quma etc ) reported that the messenger of Allah told, his successor is Abu Bakr RA, then Umar RA etc. We sunni do not accept this source neither do we accept any shia sources. We have our own sources and in our hadith, the first caliph is Abu Bakr RA then Umar RA then Uthman RA then Ali RA.
There are no ayahs in the Qur'an which talks about this issue, neither is there any ayah which states that Ali RA is the successor.
Those points you brought up aren't proofs to accept a caliphate. Caliph has to be chosen by the muslims and decision makers. Everybody has to pledge allegiance. If Ali RA himself took Abu Bakr RA hand for support, why should we ignore this historical facts.
Ali RA was the first child to accept Islam and Abu Bakr was the first male adult to accept Islam. Go read about Abu Bakr how much the prophet loved him. When prophet as ill near his last days, He commanded Abu Bakr to lead the congregation prayer and Ali RA prayed behind him.
i m also in lv wid a shia boy..
he wants to marry me.bt i hv problms wid him regardng his religion i.e.,majalis,matam...
i dnt lyk these practices at all.bt i still lv him a lott.i hv a fear in my heart regardng d
religious problmz wid him aftr marriage n evn aftr havng kids.
plz reply
filza, I think it's best not to marry him. The religious differences will be a constant source of conflict.
Wael
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
bt i cnt leave him coz he lvz me a lott n he hz no prblm wid my rlgn.
he ll nt insist me to chng.he hz promisd ds 2 me.
bt i hv a fear still abt my future..
I have red all comments about Shia and sunn's, which are very interesting and foolish as well!
some of you are really fool and never bother to at least understand and read Quran Ahadis and understand what actually Islam is? what does Islam means? Islam means Ikhlaqiyat (Manners), why Allah has sent 124,000 Massengers? just to make humen being as humen (Insaniat) and not point out who is lower and in level and who is upper? it is only practiced in Hindu religion, unchi zaat and neche zaat!!!!
we are not here to waste our time in differentiating between who is right and who is wrong, we are here to undestand the logic of Islam, which is to deal positively with others and to belive in one GOD, Prophets and Irkane Islam.
if we do so... we are muslim, is Muhammad Prophet (Peace be upon Him) was shia or sunni, he was only muslim and was guidlines for muslims, Allah has sent him to communicate ALLAH message and thats it. we should belive what he said... not to use our baseless knowledge and judgments that shia are good are sunni are good.
who knows about the 1400 years back stuff, every body is changing ahadis and history, so we dont have solid backgrounds to belive in. what we need is just to pray from ALLAH to keep us on right track and if hearts are true and clean ALLH lives there and he dafinetly will show us the right track if really of in search.
All girls are advised to please do not simply fall in discussions about shia and sunni's.. just understand what Islam is and how much the muslims are following it, the basics of Islam should be followed please and if your Shia boys are doing so then there is no issue to marry with them. to call kafir to shiya who is follwing ALLAH, Prophet and Quran is also kufar. our guide is Quran, when Rasool ALLAH (PBUH) was asked what he is leaving for us, he replied three times "Quran, Quran and Quran. so please bother yourself to understand and rread Quran and then decide yourself, what is right and what is wrong!!! Quran is there, we dont need any one else please.
Regars,
Faiza
Salam,
I am not against any one but my question is how the sunnis and shias are same....... one of them must be on wrong path
1. Shia has different Kalma than Suni
2. Shia has different way of Namaz ( Timings Asar and Maghrib mix) than Suni
3. Shia has different timings of Roza and denay Taravi
4. Shia dont believe in Zakat but Suni has
5. Shia perform Hajj in Macca but doesnt accept its completion till Ziarat in Iran and Iraq
All five pillars are different...... Shia and Sunni are two diffrent Mazahib
Furthermore
1. shia cosider 'Lie' is part of their religion but it is haram in Islam
2. shia gives preference to Imams over Mohamad (SAW) and Quran
3. shia religion based on Waq-e-qarbala and doing bidaat are their basics
4. They think the working of Mohammad (SAW) was useless as his Sahabaz(Friends) are doubtful people.
5. The begning and the end of life is totally different in both Shia and Suni even the Gusal-e-Mayat.
So any Sia who wants to marraige with a suni should remember that the Shia Ulmas dont consider the Nikkah "Jaiz".
Sorry if any of my word hurts any body.
Love u all
Assalamualaikum
Who told you Shia don't believe in Zakat
Way of offering Salat is slightly different but Surah aint.
Even in Sunnis Almost every other fiqh has a slight difference in Iftaar timing.
Who told you Shi'a doesn't accept completion of Hajj in Mecca??
Who the hell told you Shi'a considers lie as a part of their religion????I am a Shi'a and I've always been taught that lie is one of the greatest sins. In fact it's you who is spreading a fake propoganda.
Who told you Shi'as gives preference to Imams over Nabi Karim(saw)..Go and ask a random Shia child and he'll definitely answer you that Muhammad (saw) is above Imams.
So better clear your own misconceptions before spreading any propoganda.
Somhow you are correct, but it is wrong that shia dont beleive in zakat.
Nemaz is nemaz and its means, to praise ALLAH and to aviode bad thinking. so no matter if the method of performing nemaz is different. yes you are right in the timigs, it is a bit doubtful and cannt comment because i dont have enough information about it.
Kalma is also change but it might be they love Ali RA more but the the kalma shouldnt be changed as it was written many hundard years on ARSH.
I like they way shia remember Imam Hussain RA saccrifices but to hurt himself is haram in islam (Matam and zanjeer zani).
about roza timings it doesnt matter because everybody (sects) is following their own fiqah and the logic of roza is not timings but to recognize how poor live without food. so no matter of the timings are 10 - 15 minutes different.
Ziyarat shouldnt be compare with Hajj, because in last khutba, Rasool ALLAh (PBUH) never mentioned that Hajj is incomplete without the ziyarat of his childen.
but their is no harm to visit the graveyards of beloved Hassan and hussain RA.
as far as i know shiya's, they never preffred Immam over Rasool ALLAH and Quran, i am talking about outer, the inner ALLAH knows better
Yes you are right in case of Ashabaz, they were very closed to Nabi Kareem SWA and they should be respected and who we are to decide what was the right decision, in this way we are challenging ALLAH and his Rasool that they were powerless (Na aghozibiALLAH) in front of Abu bakar RA and all three frist Khalifa's if the righ was of ALI RA.
please do not spread information if you really not sure!
ALLAH show us the right path AMEEN.
I am not sunni nor shiya, I am only muslim and we should act like muslim and shouldnt divide our islam in sects.
everything need to understand logically.
Regards,
Faiza
Sister Assalamualaikum
I'll clear two of your misconceptions
1. Matam& Zanjeer zani are prohibited by most of the Mujahids, so if any Shi'a practice that it's not related to their School of thought but it's their personal thinking. Even I did that sometimes back but when I heard about the fatwa of Ali Khamenei, I stopped.
2. Almost all of the Mujahids have clearly issued fatwa against cursing or abusing any of the Sahabah. So if any Shi'a does that it's because of his illiteracy or ignorance.
u r ryt faiza...
bt plz sggst me d answer of my prvs cmnt..
shias also used to say maula (ali RA) madad..
wats dis.we cnt ask fr hlp frm anybdy accpt allah..he is the almighty..so wat wl my chldrn bcm..shia or sunni..shld i marry dat guy??
coz at last i lv hm a lott..n i cnt liv wdout hm..:-(
Assalam'alaykum Filza,
Regarding 'Ya Ali Madad', I'll have to disagree with sister Faiza. She has just given her 'opinion' which may have been distorted by her husband. But in Islam, we have no intermediaries. Intermediaries only exist in other religions. Just because some people had inter-sect marriages, it doesn't mean that they have to justify others belief. This is why inter-sect marriage is disliked.
So Yes, It is extremely important to note the deeds/actions of the shias, especially the ones that are shirk. One of their deviant action is calling Ali RA out for help. 'Ya Ali madad' basically means ' O Ali help us '. It is true that Allah alone can help us. No one, no one, no one can compel Allah to do anything. Allah does as He wishes. Ali is a servant/slave of Allah. Our prophet is also a servant/slave of Allah. All of us are the same and no one has any power whatsoever to help us except Allah the Great. So why do they call the servants of Allah for help ? Surely something is terribly wrong. It amazes me as to how a muslim can call Ali RA for help when we recite this verse from surah Al Fatiha almost 17 times a day- "You(Allah) alone do we worship, and Your aid alone we seek"(Quran 1:5) and also Allah said: "And invoke not, besides Allah, [anyone since that] will neither profit you, nor hurt you, but if (in case) you did so, you shall certainly be one of the Zaalimoon (polytheists and wrongdoers). And if Allah should afflict you with harm, then there is none to remove it but He; and if He intends good to you there is none to repel His grace. (Quran, 10:106-107) and our Prophet said: " If you want to ask, ask of Allah " (Ahmad). Therefore, it is wrong to ask Ali RA for help in their affairs. Ali RA is not ' All hearer ', so basically he can't even hear your calls/cries. He has no power, He has passed away, so not only are their efforts in vain but also constitute shirk according to the verse posted earlier.
Faiza said,
I completely agree with this. But then she said,
I see no meaning in this. This surely a major issue as we are dealing with shirk here, which is unforgivable sin. This is not how waseela works. It doesn't matter whoever is close to our prophet. Our prophet has got 11 wives (also known as mother of the believers ), he's got kids, he's got mother and father etc etc, they all are very close to our prophet, infact more close than Ali RA, so that means can we also say ' Ya Khadija madad' or 'Ya Amina madad' ? What about the angels being close to Allah ? It makes no sense. They can't help us by any means. Read carefully, Allah said: "Say [O Muhammad]: I have no power over any good or harm to myself except as Allah wills"(Quran, 7:188), So if our prophet himself has no power of good or harm over his ownself then how can anyone think that Ali RA or anyother humanbeing can be of any help to bring us good when they can't help themselves ? As Ali RA cannot save himself from death, he surely cannot help you while not present in this world. Shias not only call on Ali RA for help but some shias call their imams too etc. Its very disturbing and wrong. Why do we need to call someone whilst the intention is asking Allah ? Why can't the shias just ask Allah directly ? Why do they have to transgress to ask Allah for help ? Is Ali RA acting as some kind of 'wasta' for them ? I don't get it. Islam is purely monotheistic faith, there is no concept of intermediaries in Islam. The people of other religion went astray when they started intermediaries etc. Ali RA is very scared of Allah, he fears of what his fate would be on the day of judgement. So never call on anyone other than Allah. Allah has told us many many times in the Quran to call him, Allah said: " The most beautiful names belong to Allah; so call on Him by them" (Quran, 7:180), "Call on Me, I will answer your (prayer)." (Quran, 40:60), Did Allah say ' call Ali and ask of me ' ?
regarding supplicating to other than Allah, Allah said: " And who is more astray than he who invokes besides Allah those who will not respond to him until the Day of Resurrection, and they, of their invocation, are unaware. And when the people are gathered [that Day], they [who were invoked] will be enemies to them, and they will be deniers of their worship.(Quran 46:5-6).
The shia say that Ali RA and/or their Imams are the waseela to Allah and we the Ahl sunnah wal jama'ah, the main Islam says that the waseela to Allah is to be pious by following the Quran and sunnah.
here we have freedom of expression, you may have the right to agree or disagree with others views. Yeah you can say that this would be an opinion but the muslim like you always make things difficult and conflicted, my husband is very decent man, he never force discuss or even talk about such minute stuff, so please don’t speak about others if you don’t know. Listen, marriages among mulsims are jaiz, Our Prophet (PBUH) said that one is muslim who worships ALLAH and agree that Muhammad PBUH is last prophet of ALLAH, which shia’s, sunni both do. I am not justifying other believes, it is already cleared that some people are more to ALLAH then others, and that is why they called wali ALLAH, yes we all are servent of ALLAH same for prophets and ashaba’s but you don’t have what our prophet and ashaba’s had, Muhammad PBUH is rehmat ul alameen, and due to his sifarash we will enter to heaven, so what does that mean, it means that he is very near to ALLAH, same for wali ALLAH, like Hazrat Ali, Hazrat Usman, Hazrat Umar and Hazrat Abu bakar, they serve Islam more then anyone else, I don’t meant that Hazrat Ali can give you what we want, but it is just respect and love of people to make them as source to request ALLAH. Here I would say about shia’s that they should emphasize more on hazrat Ali then Muhammad PBUH, but if make Ali as source to request ALLAH just because they love him, so it shouldn’t be an issue for us.
We all do nothing but playing with words, we have an issue with RA and AS as well, and ignoring the fact that both of the words have the same meanings. Similarly you are interpreting Ya Ali Madad wrongly, yes it means that what you said, but it all depends on the well of saying ya Ali madad. Your interpretation of ya Ali madad is very wrong, it doesn’t mean that Ali will compel Allah to offer help, so please correct yourself. Our prophet is servant but beloved of ALLAH too, and that’s why he is light for both alam. So you can’t ignore that making him as source to ask ALLAH is wrong. What would be his shan if he was loved by ALLAH? Don’t make it complicated please and don’t make it that big issue, it is just because of love towards Ali and it is not a sin. I agree with you that shiya is more dominating Ali RA but your interpretation is also not supportive. Yeah of course ALLAH alone is malik of everything and no one can help us except ALLAH. Concerning your saying, their (Shia’s) imam’s, what do you mean by that? They are not only shia’s, or anyone else imam’s, they are imam’s of every muslim and Islam, because they are children of our beloved and nearest to ALLAH prophet and they are near as to ALLAH, so please don’t create conflicts among shia and sunni.. they are one and would be one. We can’t say the sunni sect will be going to jannah and they are right, because ALLAH is only aware of the fact, who is near to him and who is right. We don’t know and can’t say that I am very true and right. The muslims like you are just part of problem not solution. Sorry to say!
Faiza
Assalam'alaykum,
Yea you are free to express as you wish and it is my duty as a muslim to correct the falsehood regarding religion especially if someone comes here without daleel only opinions.
" Just love and respect for people " ? Let me ask sister, do you love your father ? Do you respect him ? If yes, can he be the source of asking Allah ? What about other people who we love and respect like all the sahabas and wifes of prophet and our mother, brother, sister, wife, husband etc etc etc . Can they be our 'madad' ? Who invented this new innovation for ibadah in Islam ? Sorry but this is completely wrong and haram, its just like a copy of other religion where they take intermediaries and went astray. Islam is not made of opinions but it needs daleel/proof from Quran or sahih hadiths. If not present in any of those, then the concept show be thrown in the garbage bin of history.' Ya Ali Madad ' means ' O Ali help us ', so how can you say that they are calling Allah for help ? They already used ' ALI ' in there, no Allah. “And who is more astray than one who calls (invokes) besides Allaah" (Quran 46:5) Don't tell me that their intention is Allah because I've lived with shia's most of my life and have disscussed with them these issues and they see no problem in asking Ali RA or Hussain RA directly for help. Go to shia forums and see what they say themselves. Do not justify their actions to please yourself sister. Just don't. Calling someone other than Allah for help for whatever reasons or intention goes against tawheed. Justifying shirk is you know what... I don't need to continue. Did Allah tell us in the Quran that ' call upon me using the names of the people you love ' ? Did Allah tell us to call upon the prophets or the dead or the saints to ask for help while intending me? Surely the shias follow 'tawassul bid'ah' which is shirk because they say 'O Ali help us'. "And your Lord says, "Call upon Me ; I will respond to you." Indeed, those who disdain My worship will enter Hell In humiliation" (Quran 40:60) and "Say [O Muhammad], "Have you considered that which you call besides Allah ? Show me what they have created of the earth; or did they have partnership in [creation of] the heavens? Bring me a scripture [revealed] before this or a [remaining] trace of knowledge, if you should be truthful."(Quran 46:4). So, if you have any daleel/proofs regarding what you say then please provide.
"Allah is the Truth, and that what they call upon other than Him is falsehood, and because Allah is the Most High, the Grand. (Quran 31:30)
I'm talking about the 12 so called "infallible" imams. They invoke them also which is shirk. They give them divine attributes astaghfirullah. One of their imams is Imam Mahdi. Do you know who is Imam Mahdi sister ? Some of their description about Imam Mahdi is unbelievable and scary resembling that of dajjal. Go read about Imam Mahdi in their hadith collection kitab al kafi for proofs.
Don't use 'we' when reffering to yourself. Your weak in faith as a sunni arouse due to your less knowledge about Islam or possibly due to your shia husband influence. If you doubt your opinions or sect then pity yourself but me as a follower of Ahl sunnah wal jama'ah, I am absolutely sure that I am on the right path and ahl sunnah wal jama'ah is the right path to Jannah. So Just to get you out of your oblivious world, Do you know what sunni/Ahl sunnah wal jama'ah means ? It means followers of the way of the prophet Muhammad (SAW). Period. Our Prophet said, " Follow my sunnah (way) and the way of the Rightly-guided Khaleefahs after me, adhere to it and hold fast to it ", "those who do not follow my sunnah is not from the ummah" (Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Dawood). And Allah said: "“Indeed in the Messenger of Allah you have an excellent example to follow for whoever hopes in Allah and the Last Day and remembers Allah much.” (Qur’an 33:21), and about shia aka shiyat Ali or party of Ali :). Enough said. But anyways, our Prophet said: “Whoever among you lives after I am gone will see a great deal of dissent.” (Abu Dawood). Dissent has occurred in the political field, as well as in the fields of thought and ‘aqeedah, which is represented in the appearance of different sects at the end of the era of the Rightly-Guided Caliphs, such as the Murji’is, Shi’ah and Khawaarij etc. But by Allah's mercy, Allah decreed that this division should happen when some groups drifted away from the way of the main body of the Muslims and developed their own different approach, and they were distinguished by their own names and character. So the ‘aqeedah of Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah, and the ‘aqeedah of the majority of Muslims, was not confused even for a day with that of the other, misguided sects, so that those sects would not dare to call themselves Ahl al-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa’ah, rather they are called after the bid’ah (innovation) that they introduced, or the person who founded the sect. You can see that when you examine the names of all the sects.
The famous hadeeth about the ummah splitting into seventy-three sects bears witness to that.
It was narrated from Mu’aawiyah ibn Abi Sufyaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stood among us and said: “Those who came before you of the people of the Book split into seventy-two sects, and this ummah will split into seventy-three: seventy-two in Hell and one in Paradise, and that is the jamaa’ah(main body of Muslims).”
(Abu Dawood)
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) described the saved group as the jamaa’ah, i.e., the consensus of the Muslim scholars. In other reports he also described them as “the vast multitude”, The Prophet also described them in the following terms: “My ummah will split into seventy-three sects, all of whom will be in Hell except one group.” They said: Who are they, O Messenger of Allaah? He said: “(Those who follow) that which I and my companions follow.” (Tirmidhi)
This is the clearest sign that the Muslim can use to determine what is the saved group, so he should follow the way of the majority of scholars, those whom all the people testify are trustworthy and religiously-committed, and he should follow the way of the earlier scholars among the Sahaabah, Taabi’een and the four Imams and other scholars, and he should beware of every sect that differs from the main body of Muslims (jamaa’ah) by following innovation (bid’ah). If you are wondering about the statistics of the muslim population in the world, then it comprises of around 80-85% sunni/Ahl sunnah wal jama'ah/main stream muslim/jama'ah and around 10-15% shia/shiyat Ali and the rest minority.
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:
The sign of the people of bid’ah is that they do not follow the salaf al saliheen. End quote from Majmoo’ al-Fataawa (4/155).
Faiza, part of being a Muslim means you make dua ONLY to Allah.
To the girl (Zara) who asks why it's always Sunni girls with Shia men, and how Shia men apparently force their beliefs on the Sunni women - and the girl (Sana) who says her Shia man forces her to change her beliefs to Shia beliefs:
Well, it's not always like that. And no one should have such a weak faith and personality anyway, that anyone CAN force them to change their beliefs, or even make them confused about what their beliefs should be. So Sana, if you're confused about your husband's pressure on you, to "convert" to Shiism, then you probably don't even have a very strong Sunni belief as it is - because if you were 100% certain that Shiism is not for you then you would be able to tell you husband, "listen up, I don't believe what you believe, therefore I'm not going to become a Shia Muslim. Take it or leave it". Yes, it's that easy. Faith is not a techincality, faith should be sincere, well-thought and is indeed personal - no one can tell you what your faith needs to be.
I think, islamically, a Sunni and Shia Muslim can marry, however, such marriage's succes totally depends on the attitudes of the people in such a marriage. If you enter an "interfaith" marriage with the mentality and idea that you have to change your spouse's beliefs, ridicule him/her for his/her beliefs and basically form them in to being the exact type of Muslim you want them to be, then yes, your Sunni/Shia marriage will, without a doubt, fail miserably. If you deep down can't accept that your husband or wife is Sunni or Shia, then don't marry someone with a different set of beliefs tan your's!
Dear Filza,
do the guy you love, love you u too? it should be a real love from his side then this shia sunni difference can be handles, i am sunni and i m married to a shiya guy, but we really love each other and this love is dominant upon this sect differences.
filza you are right, we cant bear if sombody abuse our ashaba, and this should have to be understand by the opposit side, i mean your lover should respect your beleives and you should respect his believes.
look we are muslim, doesnt matter shia or sunni. ALLAH has send us QURAN and rasool ALLAH has leave Quran for us, it is enough to read, understand and act on Quran once we done with it, then we dont need anything else to prefere on Quran. filza this not about shia sunni, its about your life, dont leave the guy just because of this stupid difference, but if you feel you cant spend life with him for other reasons, like he is not educated, or his family can create problems for you and not flexible in accepting this shiya sunni difference, or he is not on good job, then i wont suggest you to marry him becasue when a person is not educated and not doing job, then it means he or she is free to discuss and fight for stupid and unwanted things.
this is an emotional sentence of you that u cant live without him, you see a lot of mothers loss their kids in bomb blast and a lot of wives losses their husbands, but they still live their lives. decide from your mind not heart, its about your life.
if he is not that strict shiya and can understand islam, what actually Islam means, then go for marriage but if is strickt in his beleive, like preffering ALI (RA) over Rasool then dont go for it. but he belives ALI (RA) as first imam, then its not a problem because it is very complicated issue and only ALLAH knows about it.
Our deen is completed by our Prophet, this all mess (sects issues) is just created after when our beloved prophet passed, so dont take it serious.
yes it is not good if sombody abuse Ashaba's Karam because they whatever is true, but at last they were the companions of our prophet and in hsitory no where and anything nasty is mentioned about them by our prophet, so we can not abuse them. they were very near to our prophet and at least serve for ISLAM. we should respect them, as ALI (RA) has also respected them. i havnt seen or read anything bad about them from ALI (RA), these all bad things are just to divide and weaken Islam.
Ya ALI madad, filza "Inna mal Aamalo bil niyat" (Our actions depends on our wills), it depends, if sombody is just asking ALI (RA) to help them and ignoring ALLAH or with the beleif that Ali can give them but not ALLAH, then it is Shirk, but if you are making ALI (RA) as waseela as because he was very to our prophet and therefore to ALLAH and you are using his name as waseela (as niyat) but in fact askig ALLAH then its not an issue. so dont take it serious, just discuss with that guy that with which will he is saying Ya Ali Madad.
Best Luck my sister, i would say ALLAH naseeb achy kary bus.
Regards,
Faiza
Ya ALI madad, filza "Inna mal Aamalo bil niyat" (Our actions depends on our wills), it depends, if sombody is just asking ALI (RA) to help them and ignoring ALLAH or with the beleif that Ali can give them but not ALLAH, then it is Shirk,
That's wrong. Even the Mushrik Arabs believed Allah could give them but they made dua to other than Allah. This is completely against the Quran, the Sunnah, the Sahaba, and all the believers. It is open and explicit shirk and doing so takes on out of the fold of Islam. There is no disagreement concerning this except among the Muslim lands(although these people are not Muslim) extreme deviants among the Sufis, the Shias, and ignorant villagers who don't know any better
but if you are making ALI (RA) as waseela as because he was very to our prophet and therefore to ALLAH and you are using his name as waseela (as niyat) but in fact askig ALLAH then its not an issue. so dont take it serious, just discuss with that guy that with which will he is saying Ya Ali Madad.
Brother, who told you that Ali Radiyallahu Anhu's name can be used for Waseelah?
In fact, even the name of Rasoolullah Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam can not be used for Waseelah. Waseelah which is valid is of three types: by Allah's Names, by one's good deeds and by asking people who are ALIVE to make dua for you. For more details, read Imam Albani Rahimahullah's book on Tawassul.
Abu Abdul Bari
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
WHOA, sorry, that was a quote!WHOA, sorry, that was a quote!
Edit: This was the quote. I was just qouting Faiza. Obviously I don't follow this falsehood.
"but if you are making ALI (RA) as waseela as because he was very to our prophet and therefore to ALLAH and you are using his name as waseela (as niyat) but in fact askig ALLAH then its not an issue. so dont take it serious, just discuss with that guy that with which will he is saying Ya Ali Madad."
For more on Isitgatha and tawassul, check out this from Imam Abu Zubair:
The following is a loose compilation of what I have written on this issue on various forums. I have tried to organise it in a logical fashion:
Let me try to clarify the different types of tawassul/istighatha that we often discuss:
1) To call upon other than Allah for a need, such as rain, etc, while believing that the one being addressed will answer the call is Shirk by agreement. For example: O Prophet! Send us rain!
2) To call upon other than Allah for a need, such as rain, etc, while believing that only Allah will answer the call is Shirk, by agreement. For example: O Prophet! Send us rain!
3) To call upon other than Allah, asking them to intercede for us with Allah is also Shirk. For example: O Prophet! Intercede for us with Allah!
4) To call upon the Prophet, asking him to make du’a for us is Shirk. For example: O Prophet! Ask Allah to grant us rain!
5) To call upon Allah alone, asking Him by His Prophet is a valid difference of opinion in Fiqh where none is censured. For example: O Allah! I ask you alone by Your noble Prophet!
As for the last one, I consider even that to be a bidah although it isn't explicit shirk.
aslkm sister faiZa..
im really really happy aftr wat u said..thanx a ton..
my bf is an educated prson n hz family too..evn hz sistr in law iz also sunni..
bt d prblm iz dat she had chngd hrslf willngly bt i dnt wnt to chng.
coz i jst rspct evry rlgn bt i dnt blv in shia islam.
one thng i also wnt 2 ask as ur also marrd to a shia..so wat u hv dcd abt ur chldrn..wll they b shia or sunni..
hw will they prfrm salah..etc etc
ds is d biggest issue in intrfaith mrrg..wic destroys a rltn mostly..
plz reply
The ultimate goal of life is to earn Jannah. Basically, we are created to worship Allah and follow His commands. 'Love' is part of this life and we must not compromise our religion over 'love'. We also must not compromise our ummah over 'love'. It is disturbing to see some sunni sisters marry shia men and compromised their understanding of Islam and justified some of the deviant shia beliefs as though its not a big issue. I call that 'Epic fail'.
We the sunnis are called ' Ahl sunnah wal Jama'ah ' which means we are the followers of the sunnah of our prophet Muhammad (SAW). The Qur'an and the sahih hadiths makes the basis of Islam. So to ignore the sunnah and ONLY follow the Qur'an is a failed mission. Our sister Faiza said,
Being a sunni myself, with all due respect, I would say that sister Faiza has been 'moderate/liberal'. Allah knows what her intentions are but it seems as though she isn't advising Islamically, Earlier sister Faiza said, " I am not sunni nor shia, I am only muslim " but later on she said " I am sunni and my husband is shia ". I would surely not take heed to her advices if I were you as it is filled with justification of aqeedah, fiqhi etc which is a huge difference but because of her love towards her husband, she has compromised. One of the reason why muslim women aren't allowed to marry non-muslim men is because of their weak faith and emotions and might result in her changing her religion. Similarly, marrying a shia will most probably force her to change her Islamic belief to a different version which we consider as deviant.
Firstly, Allah has ordered us to follow His messenger. Sunnah of our prophet is equally important in Islam. Sunnah must not be ignored when making wordly decisions. Many times our prophet told us to follow his sunnah. " Whoever leaves my sunnah is not amongst me ", " Pay attention to my sunnah (way) and the way of the Rightly-guided Khaleefahs after me, adhere to it and hold fast to it " ( Muslim, Abu Dawood ). Allah said: " O you who believe! Obey Allaah and obey the Messenger . . ." [al-Nisaa’ 4:59], “He who obeys the Messenger has indeed obeyed Allaah . . .” [al-Nisaa’ 4:80], "" Indeed in the Messenger of Allah (Muhammad) you have a good example to follow for him who hopes for (the Meeting with) Allah and the Last Day, and remembers Allah much." (Quran 33:21).
Allah said: ". . . And let those who oppose the Messenger’s commandment beware, lest some fitnah (trial, affliction, etc.) befall them or a painful torment be inflicted on them.” [al-Nur 24:63]
Therefore it is extremely important to Obey Allah and His messenger. Thus the Quran and the sunnah must be followed. If anyone is against the teaching of our prophet then he has disobeyed Allah.
Secondly, marriage is not only about the love between a husband and wife. It involves Islam, children etc. We obviously want our children to be following the Quran and the ways of the prophet and his companions. We want them to be among the sunni. Our prophet said, "The People of the Two Scriptures divided into seventy-two sects. This Ummah will divide into seventy-three sects, all in the Fire except one, that is, the Jama’ah. Some of my Ummah will be guided by desire, like one who is infected by rabies; no vein or joint will be saved from these desires." (Abu Dawood, Ahmad and al-Haakim), Therefore, when considering marriage, we must wish proper true Islamic upbringing of our children. They must not be confused. It is ignorant to say, ' I'm muslim, not sunni not shia ' etc, its like those who call themselves sunnis are not proper muslim infact we are the true muslims (sunni is just a label) because we follow our prophet as well as the Quran as is ordered by Allah, while others follow only partial Quran. Sis, your marriage is being taken into consideration, Its a big decision in life. Surely a religious woman/man would have huge problems going into these sort of marriages. Should inter-sect marriage happen, think of your kids Islamic upbrining, their conflicting beliefs, ideas, fiqh matters, salah, interpretation etc. Think of some of the shias deviant acts which displeases Allah ? Think of how your kids might suddenly curse the sahabas or disobey Allah by calling ' Ya Ali Madad ' or by any other means against the teaching of Islam ? I know of men who marry non-muslim women, they promised them that they won't force them to change religion, after marriage the focring starts. I'll have to warn you. You don't want to end up divorced.
Whats your dad's view ?
I won’t agree with you Mr. Ali, you are just giving importance to your own ideas and believes, as it is strongly forbidden to just listen your own self and ignoring others. On one side you are saying that we are created to worship ALLAH and follow his command and on other side you are saying shia’s believes are not good, I never seen shiya’s worshiping ALI RA, all they worship ALLAH and follow his command. I don’t which shia’s do you know who are worshiping ALI RA?
You are ignoring the fact that ALLAH knows everything, how can we say that we are perfectly right and other are wrong, we can’t because what happened 1400 years before has been changed and we don’t know what was right and what is wrong. For us only Quran is there, the right and valid book to learn about Islam.
I would request to our shiya sunni brothers and sisters to please follow only the basics of islam, like toheed, prophets, day of judgment and humanity, because Islam is religion of humanity, ALLAH will forgive Haqooq ALLAH but will never forgive haqooq ul Ibad, so please don’t don’t fall in proving who is right and who is wrong. Otherwise other religions will make fun of our islam. For us it is enough to follow quran and offer prayers with the concept what does prayers mean and what does Quran say. Mr. Ali, you are very wrong my brother that only following Quran is failed mission, listen the muslim like you has change everything the books of ahadees, everyone has their own interpretation, shia is saying something else sunni is saying something else, everyone is creating knowledge just to show each other that one is superior and nothing else, here I cant see any Islam sorry.
Quran is the only book for which ALLAH promised to take care of it and no one can change it, so to follow Quran is more then anything else.
I am sorry to say but who the molvi you are to say that I am not advising Islamic ally, I am liberal but thanks ALLAH and he knows what are my intentions for Islam and all muslim brothers and sisters. The people like you is a big fuss creators, now again you are saying that shia is not muslim, which is unethical and a big sin, because you are not GOD to know who is wrong and who is right.
Shia sunni should marry, so that we can share information about Islam and can correct each other instead of just saying oh, shia is kafir and sunni is kafir. Please do not just critics because you are forgetting that I was giving refrence to filza, that’s why said that I am sunni and my husband is shia, that’s why I use the word shia and sunni. Otherwise we all are muslims, my husband has never forced me nor talk about anything about my believes and aqaid, nor I have seen anything which goes to shirk in him, he is just a muslim, so please don’t say that shia men will force his belives upon sunni women. Its not right, word was created just for our prophet PBUH and it was just because ALLAH was in love with him and send him to give message of humanity, so we cannot ignore love in Islam, this love through which we can change everything.
My husband love me and I love him and therefore we are respecting each other views and believes, we are researching and studying islam in more details, If I were married to a sunni guy, I would never be able to take chance of studying islam so deeply.
Why you are giving information about, which we all already knows and AlhamduALLAH follow, here not me nor filza is illiterate, so thank you so very much for preaching what we know and follow already.
Concerning my saying “I m not shia nor sunni, I am muslim” you are disagree with this but you yourself is saying that we are true muslim sunni is just a label, who is true muslim? Who obey ALLAH prophet and Quran, so shia do the same, where is the problem?
Faiza
Hala,
I never said that shias worship Ali RA now did I ? All I said was that some of the actions, practices, beliefs, rituals of shia constitute bid'ah, shirk etc and thus destroys the concept of Tawheed and the sunnah of prophet. Example, 'O Ali Help Us', 'O Mahdi come to rescue us', self torturing etc.
Firstly, you have to study the science of hadith to learn its authenticity. If you did, you wouldn't have any doubt over them. Now, Allah orders you to obey prophet Muhammad and to follow his way because he is the best in mankind, so if you think that Quran is the only book we have to learn, then how do we know what our prophet did, or say or taught etc ? How do we follow and obey him ? How do we learn about the biography of him ? Etc etc Through sahih hadith or by guessing ?, obviously sahih hadith. And I said ' a failed mission ' because of the very same reason above, we should follow the Qur'an in its whole and not partially. Without learning and following the sahih hadith, how are we going to obey and follow our the way of our prophet as is ordered by Allah ? Islam comprises of Qur'an and sunnah. Period. Any contrary opinions has to be ignored.
Have you ever heard of hadith al Qudsi ? Indeed, Allah revealed to our prophet many informations which are not present in the Qur'an but in the hadith.
Islamic advice includes proofs and reference from Qur'an, hadith without which is only opinions of desires and whims.
And When did called shia a kafir ? What people think is none of my concern, I am just refuting rubbish concepts, beliefs, opinions etc with Islamic proofs, if you can do the same, go ahead, if you cannot, then dont even think of arguing or refuting the Quranic ayahs and hadiths.
So sad. Marriage is a big thing in life, and dealing with a shia is another. Wise mind is needed when dealing with these issues.
Thats one absurd hypothesis.
May Allah guide the us all to the straight path.
Those who say that Allah Has Only Preserved the Quran and not the Sunnah should know that Allah Has also Preserved the Ahaadeeth from being corrupted. Allah Gave this Ummah something called "Ilm ar Rijaal" which was used by the people of the Sunnah, the people of Hadith, the Muhadditheen Rahimahumullah and because of this, Saheeh could be differentiated from that which is not Saheeh. Not only Hadith Qudsi, but even the other Ahaadeeth with Saheeh Isnaad are from Allah, in the word of His Rasool Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam. Alhamdulillah, for this reason, the 'Ulama say that when Allah Said that He Will Preserve the "Dhikr" from being corrupted (in Surah al Hijr) this also includes the Sunnah. Something from the words of the Salaf:
It is reported that ‘Imrān b. Husayn – Allāh be pleased with him – was once relating hadīth amongst a group of people, when a man said:
Leave this and give us something from the Book of Allāh. ‘Imrān said, “You are a dunce (stupid). Do you find in the Book of Allāh details of prayer. Do you find in the Book of Allāh details of fasting!? This Qur`ān prescribes those matters, and the Sunnah explains them.”
Al-Harawī, Dham Al-Kalām article 244, et al with various wordings.
It is reported that Sufyân Al-Thawrî said, “The narrations (al-âthâr) are the religion.”
And it is reported that he also said, “A man should not even scratch his head except based on a narration.”
It is reported that Al-Musayyib b. Râfi’ Al-Asadî said, “We only follow, we do not innovate; we follow behind and do not start anything [in the religion], and we will never stray as long as we adhere to the narrations.”
Al-Harawî, Dhamm Al-Kalâm wa Ahlihî Vol. 2
It is reported that Muhammad b. Sîrîn said, “They used to consider themselves on the [right] path as long as they followed al-athar (guidance of the Sunnah and Salaf as passed down in the narrations).”
Al-Lâlakâ`î, Sharh Usûl I’tiqâd Ahl Al-Sunnah wa Al-Jamâ’ah Vol.1 p120.
It is reported that ‘Uthmân b. Hâdir said, “I said to Ibn ‘Abbâs: ‘advise me.’ He replied, ‘It is upon you to be upright, follow al-athar, and beware of innovating [in religion].’”
Ibn Battah, Al-Ibânah Al-Kubrâ Vol. 1 p214.
Tafseer of Quran is not possible without the Sunnah. So, the Sunnah is preserved, as well as the Quran, from the Sahaabah to those who followed them until today and in sha Allah, until Yawm al Qiyaamah.
Abu Abdul Bari
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
" I don’t which shia’s do you know who are worshiping ALI RA?"
Not ALL Shias commit shirk. My mothers side is Shia and they don't commit shirk.
But, you can tell a Shia Mushrik when he says "YA ALI MADAD" when he should really be calling upon Allah alone. THAT is a mushrik Shia and there are a lot of Mushrik Shia.
filza, just listen to your heart, its a place of ALLAH, where he is living, all whats people saying and what shia and sunni is fighting for is just rabbish and islam is not that narrow.
First important thing is toheed and haqooq ul ibad! the rest is just man made stuff, we dont know who is right and who wtong only ALLAh knows.
for kids, they are very young for the movement, we decided first to teach them humanity, Quran and toheed, about all prophets and seerat e nabi, we decided to tell them about these stupid differences and will tell them they have nothing to do with that, they have to follow what rasool ALLAh has advised to all muslim.
what is concept of nemaz? do u know? listen nemaz is just to worship ALLAH and to ask him for right way and his blessing, no matter, what the method is, our prophet (PBUH) has offerred prayers by three ways, with open hands, with closed hands as well. so dont worry both nemaz are valid, but it should be only for ALLAH not for Ali, abu bakar Usman or Umar please.
for changing faith, i would like you to read the comments of Adina mohammadi, she has defined a big philosophy in very nice words.
dont listen so many people, just follow your heart, our lives is too short to spend in defining differences and fighting against each others. our life would be enough to read seerat nabi, toheed and Quran nothing else plz.
so do not fight for the rest, that ALLAH knows better, just respect ALL FOUR Calipha's. they were very closed to our prophet and followd him, so should preffered to follow our prophet directly.
Regards,
Faiza
Most of the people come to Islamicanswers forum to seek Islamic advices, so I would be very cautious regarding advises like ' listen to your heart '. Thats naive. ! Allah said: "..But on their hearts is the stain of the sin which they do!""(83:15). So therefore the heart is not to be fully trusted. Heart is the place where the satan wisphers. The heart has many evil desires. We should use our mind and Islamic knowledge instead to help guide the heart. Sister Filza has already tread the wrong path, so should she still listen to her heart ?. If she does, it will lead to no where but a dark pit. Infact she should redeem herself now. She now needs to use her Allah gifted intelligence, start researching the practices, beliefs and rituals of the shias, she must know that the shia dont use the shaih hadith like bukhari, muslim, abu dawood etc they have their own "sahih" collection totally different and filled with many unauthentic, weak and fabricated hadiths. For exapmle, if you teach your children about the greatness of Allah, the shia authentic collection " Kitab Al Kafi " states that ' Allah often lie and make mistakes ' ( Astaghfirullah talk about tawheed), if you teach your children about the prophet, sahabas etc, your shia guy might teach them something contradictory. If you teach your children the kalima, the shia guy might add something extra. If you teach about marriage, the shia guy might teach about 'temporary marriage', teach about calling Allah for help, the shia guy might teach them to call Ali or Hasan or Mahdi for help does leading to shirk leading to hell and so on. Make your choice. Do check what exactly are his beliefs, pratices etc and pray Istikhara.
Reference to that ayat of Quran, this is for munafiqen deen, so please don’t use it for muslim clear hearted people. Clear heart is a place of ALLAH please.
In today’s world when one is saying I am right and the rest wrong and the other do the same, so one like innocents like filza become confuse that’s why, here its important to listen heart as it will never misguide you. Clean heart will deceive filza, because it always guide very properly, you can’t prefer your intelligence over heart. Why we pray? Why we can’t get things through intelligence? We pray because we keep faith in ALLAH, we never and seen him and we cant see him but still we love him why? Because he lives in heart! My dear brother, if we use intelligence, you will never faith on unseen things, as ALLAH is also unseen but we feel him in day to day activities, in changing our plans and because he lives in our hearts. So don’t say that heart will misguide us. Yes we need very clear heart and a well for right way, if we do so, there is no power can misguide us.
Read about mutta a temporary marriage, it was a good option to avoid Sins, we easily commit sins but feel sham in temporary nikah, but it was, it is not followed anymore because everybody can control him or herself now.
Please do not spread such a bad information about shia muslims, they never say that “ALLAH can commit mistakes and lie” please stop it. They believe ALLAH from the core of their heart. It is totally wrong and rubbish.
Hala,
Reference of that ayah is to the deniers of the Qur'anic verse.
What are you saying ? Innocents like sis Filza who is confused should use her mind and learn what Islam teaches and then decide and not just ' listen to her heart ', thats the last thing one should do when in need of Islamic advice and in bad situation. She probably knows that pre-marital relationship is haram in Islam and yet she's been there why ? Because she followed her heart when satan wisphers. (no offence intended). Similarly, a muslim taught that alcohol is forbidden and yet the evil ones drink them why ? Because their heart yearn for it. Do you know that many muslims are taught that fornication is haram and yet many have done them why ? Because as always the heart is calling them to it. Now talk about heart doesn't misguides. *face palm* And many more examples I can give. The evil desires, have you heard of it ?
"Temptations are presented to the heart, one by one. Any heart that accepts them will be left with a black stain, but any heart that rejects them will be left with a mark of purity, until the hearts become one of two types: a dark heart that has turned away and become like an overturned vessel, and a pure heart that will never be harmed by temptation for as long as the earth and the heavens exist." (Related by Muslim), now you see why 'heart' shouldn't be fully trusted ? Another example, If a girl wishes to marry a shia but her father is against it, and she plans on running away, what will your advise be ' just listen to your heart '? Or will you try to guide her Islamically ? No matter if she takes heed or not.
As I said before, we use our mind, intelligence to guide the heart. What you mean by we can't get things through intelligence ? Do you mean that, if a person wishes to be a doctor from his heart but he is unable to study medicine, he can oneday be a doctor ? Will you go to him/her ? If only they studied it then only they will be a doctor. So, mind then heart, got it ? You just gave an explanation of 'blind faith' in Allah. That happens if you only view things through heart. But if you use mind, intelligence etc TOO then surely your faith wouldn't be a blind anymore. By studying the Quran, hadith and pondering over each aspects, will give you a faith more stronger than just in the heart.
Ops, unfortunately it is STILL followed by the shias till today. Sorry.
What the shia says is none of my concern but their sahih hadith states that in 'Usul al Kafi'. Go check it yourself. Its good that the shia wishes to ignore their sahih hadith as they find it absurd and rubbish.
They certainly believe in Allah, that doesn't stop them from being Mushriks.
And most of them believe not in Allah except that they attribute partners unto Him [i.e. they are Mushrikun -polytheists - see Verse 6: 121].
http://quran.com/12/106
Even Christians have strong faith in Allah, but it is nullified by their shirk so they are disbelievers, like many Shia are outright kuffar. The end of all of them is the fire.
Jazakallahu Khayr Bro Abu Abdul Bari for those informations.
no body here doesn't want to know the opinion of shias on the first three calipahs abubaker,omer,usman ,and mother ayesha.........simply i dont have problems with shia if they dont abuse those all of them and believe in not extended kalima .....
As salaam alaikum all
I would just like to say one thing on the arguement of Shia and Sunnis
If to be Sunni is to follow the Sunnat of prophet Mohammed s.a.w.s then there is no greater Sunni than
"Imam ali "
If to be Shia is to love imam ali then there is no greater Shia than "prophet Mohammed s.a.w.s"
Read the lines carefully then people will automatically understand who is a true Sunni and a Shia
It is not haram because in the Quran there is no such thing as Sunni or Shia . As long as both of you only follow what the Quran says and not what the scholars say you will be good. It does not say weather Shia is right or Sunni ( I am a Muslim girl also in love with a different type of Muslim boy ) but we have chosen not to say weather we are Sunni or Shia and only identify ourselves as Muslim
If the Sunni-Shiah issue is the only thing, then there is no problem. Your nikah is fine.
Wael
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
can any 1 tell me please that can a suni boy can marry a shia girl??
This is utter nonsense.
Clearly coming from a mind that has an agenda.
This is clearly the reason Pakistan is in a state that it is in right now. Everyone claiming 'THEY' are the right kind of muslims.
Don't listen to people like these. Keep learning and finding out things yourself.
I dnt know exactly that whether shia sunni marriages are allowed or not but just imagine if it is allowed than does u allowed urself to marry a person who insult our caliphs...if someone tell anything bad about our family then we dnt like to talk with her/him then how u will allow urself to marry a person who had a lot of misconceptions and bad thoughts about our caliphs..
I want to kindly remind everyone, if someone claims to be a Muslim, no one on earth has competence to label them otherwise. Other details about what people might personally want out of their spouses aside.....Shias are people of the book, and They are Muslims. I see no problem here. A Christian and a Jewish person are people of the book but not a Shia Muslim? Cmon
Assalam o alaikum.. I'm a sunni girl. I have married to a shiya man. This was a secret court marriage. I took this wrong step due to some personal issues. His family know about our court marriage and willing to accept me. But my family is not familiar with all this. I'm bit confused is this a legal marriage or halal in shariat? My husband performs self beating , aza dari , attends 40 day majalis as well as he has strong shia beliefs. He does not force me to change my aqeeda . Even he is okay If I stay on my beliefs do help me Is this halal or haram?
I am not a scholar n I dnt wnt to be one...but on d basis of my logic ...it is halal...dere is no point u say dis haraam...coz I HV a proof for dat.. prophet Muhammad (pbuh)came wid a single msg..he did not divided dat u r Shia or u r Sunni...all divisions in Islam came after the death of prophet Muhammad (pbuh)...so der is no point dat dey came in hadees ...coz hadees is wht prophet Muhammad (pbuh)said ...so if d event is occured after d death of d prophet n arises due to the conflict between the khalifas and see followers ...HW it is illegal den..dese divisions wr created by corrupted ppl who loved power and society...n society is a part of duniya...not deen
N the person who run for duniya ...his aakhirat is destroyed...not d ppl who r marrying..so dese r all bullshits to calm ourselves dats all
Aoa, i belong from a Shia family and desires to marry a sunni guy but i will not change my cast or leave my norms after marriage so is my nikkah with a sunni guy will be valid or not? if yes then what will be the pros and cons of it?
Assalaamualaykum,
Your marriage to this guy is valid as there are no sects in Islam. You two, when married, would do well not to place any emphasis on sects and just be good muslims, even if that is not exacly how you grew up practicing. You'd also do well not to not place any emphasis on "castes," as they are prohibited. Know that if you marry a guy who has grown up "sunni" he will have slightly different customs and things, but those are cultural differences, not religious. Try to establish a method of prayer that both of you can practice together. My own parents grew up "Sunni" and "Shia."
Hugs,
Nor