Will my marriage in the Philippines be valid in Saudi?
I am a Saudi man who wants to marry a Filipina Muslim girl, and I'm asking if my marriage will be valid in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia if I get married there (in the Philippines). What do I need to do to marry her there, and then she will come here to Saudi Arabia?
Thanks for everyone's help to me.
-beso
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Salamu Alekium Beso. I advice you to inquire about this at the Saudi Embassy in the Philipins. Mabrook in advance!
assalamu alaikum brother,
before my marriage I was to marry a Saudi national and the process is quite grueling if the woman isn't a Saudi national AND is also living overseas at the time of marriage.
first you have to get permission from the Saudi govt as newly there has been a problem with a lot of Saudi men marrying foreign women and forgoing Saudi women so.....SHE CANNOT become a valid wife and be on your family ID without you getting permission BEFORE you bring her. Also, you have to be able to show that you can financially take care of her and ALSO she has to understand that in the event of a divorce the children will automatically be Saudi and NOT have a Filipino passport and SHE CANNOT take them out of Saudi w/o signed documents by YOU. she will immediately have to leave Saudi Arabia...this is all good for you but for HER..she needs to know.
it will take a few months but if yo uhave the right connections you can get it done in a few weeks. I think that they eventually if they already haven't put limits on how many marriages they allow with Saudi men marrying foreigners.
salam! brother, I read your comment below and I thought maybe I can ask you about my concern. My husband and I got married here in the Philippines without getting permission from the ministry. it's been years now and me and my son is left here. My husband already got his permission and he is planning to take us in saudi arabia. what will he do to take us in saudi? is he obliged to go to the embassy here? I hope u will respond to my queries. thanks in advance.
If your Saudi husband already has the permission then he will just have to go the the embassy and process your visa.
thank u for replying. do u mean he needs to come here in the philippines and go to saudi embassy?
Yes, he will get the visa application number at the foreign affairs in saudi and bring it to saudi embassy in philippines.
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Wael
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Also there are requirements to comply at the embassy.
@Wael, it takes time for me to visit this site and I don't check it also from time to time. So I was thinking giving my email to other sister will be faster in helping her other than posting it here which for them they dont visit the site everyday like me. I cant find your rules on posting replies here so I assumed handing out my email is not any violation of some sort.
Massalama.
Assalamu Alaikum,
Good day to you!
I am a Filipino muslim woman, i was born here in Jeddah and raised here. Moreover, my father and mother have been living here for almost 2 decades. I am sending this e-mail because i want to have some tips from you.
Should me and my saudi fiance get married Islamically first and get the permission? Or it would be better to get the permission first? They said there is age limit of 35. But my fiance is just 28.
I hope you can give advise or help me somehow. I just want to know what's the first thing we need to do so i can help also my fiance in deciding.
Thank you very much. Hoping for your response.
Best regards
Get the permission first. Permission first before anything else because getting married islamically doesnt matter in saudi government and will make things harder on both of you. If you can email me ****
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Wael
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The permission process is somewhat complicated and yet flexible. I think it all depends on who holds your paper and how willing the Saudi to follow it up. My husband applied for the permission at the age of 33 and alhamdullilah he got it after 3 months. I know a Filipina and her Saudi is 36 and yet the application was rejected twice already.
Personally, I wouldnt advise any non saudi woman to be involved with a saudi without the marriage permission. Even if you get married anywhere else in the world, it doesnt have any bearing with the saudi government. Especially if you intend to both live in KSA, I wouldnt get a stone to hit on my own head by being involved with a saudi without the permission because you will just be emotionally stressed and mentally drained thinking about it because there is no guarantee on how easy or hard, short or long, of waiting for it.
If you get married Islamically, you still risk of getting caught in KSA because it will not be legally recognized by the saudi government. And in the event you get pregnant, then that would be a double trouble for both of you because legally, you are not considered a married woman.
Thank you so much for your response. My Fiance and my dad is completing the papers now for the permission. In shaa Allah everything will go easy. Anyways, wedding is set next year as what both family have agreed on.. so we have the whole year to wait for the permission In shaa Allah and before anything else permission first - i will follow this advise from you. In shaa Allah it will be easier since he said he won't be going Riyadh and the process will be here in Jeddah for those who are non-saudi but was born here. I really appreciate your advise. Allah bless your family.
Allah will make it easy for you, in shaa Allah. The permission process is really just a hit and miss. The filipina i told you is married for 3 yrs already and still waiting for the approval. There is another one who has a kid already and still trying to find a way on how the Saudi husband will be able to get the marriage approval. That's why I advise that permission first before everything else because we really dont know how long it will take and it is really quite depressing to be in that situation.
Yes, i have read some articles that says they have waited 5 years, 2 years and more for the permission. Although, there are some who got it after 2 months and like you who got it after 3 months (Alhamdulillah) but still most of the stories i have read includes waiting for years. In shaa Allah i will keep you updated. Thank you so much 🙂
There is a private support group in FB of Saudi wives or has/had any relationship with Saudi men. But anyway, I hope it will be easier on you especially that you are born in KSA.
Hi Farrah, may I know how you processed your marriage in PH? Which documents are needed? My partner can't get approval from the ministry, so we are planning to get married in PH. Thanks
Good day.. I just want to ask for help.. What are the things needed for the saudi man to get married a filipina woman in the philippines?.. Thanks a lot
Assalamu alaykum. I have same case with this. Is my marriage contract will be affected if my husband married me and not get permission to saudi before marriage ?
Technically, your saudi man should get the permission before getting married. As what I know, if marriage before permission, you will be seeking for the approval and not permission.
salaam brother,
you have to get permission from the Saudi govt before your marriage can be legalized. if you bring her that and it isn't..she will not be on your family ID and not recognized...she also needs to know that in the event of a divorce since she is NOT A SAUDI..she will not have any way to recover anything. the children will stay with you and cant leave Saudi w/o your permission and she will have to leave Saudi Arabia immediately. she will have no rights to the children.
It's like their custody rules are the exact opposite of ours. In the UK and USA, fathers' have no rights to their children and in Saudi it's mothers' who have no right.
Brother,
Your chances of marrying her and bringing her into the kingdom are slim to none. Before you tie the knot, my advice would be for you to look into what you need to do and what documents would be required. My paperwork alone took over a year to process if I remember correctly and that was way before the rules and regulations were changed a few years ago (which make things a lot more difficult).
Salam
Assalamu Alaykum my Question is i'm a filipina working here in Riyadh and a have a Saudi Fianc'ee are we Allow to marry at makamah Jazakhalahu Khair
Your Saudi man must apply the permission from the government first before he will be allowed to marry any non-saudi woman. It doesnt matter even if you are in the Kingdom. Unless he secures that permission, you will not be legally recognized as his wife in Saudi government.
I am a filipina and i want to marry a saudi man.. What are those other requirement needed for us to be married aside from getting permission to the government? Do i still have to write a letter of willingness to marry this man? What willbw the format? And do i need to get a letter of consent from my parents with stamp and sign from saudi embassy and court? Pls answerme.. Thank u.. I need to know the requirement
If permission is granted, your saudi will have to go to philippine embassy to process your wife visa. They will give also lists of the things they will be requiring from you. (Marriage certificate - red ribbon, medical exam, shahada certificate, your father's/wali's consent/waiver).
I am seeking to get married in the Philippines. However, I am not planning to bring my wife to KSA as she wishes.
Can I do it with out the permission?
I read online I have to obtain a certificate of legal capacity to contract the marriage?
I need your advices please
I think if you want to marry a Christian Filipina, they will be needing that certificate of legal capacity to contract the marriage because you will be getting married under civil law of the Philippines.
On the other hand, if she is a Muslim there is different set of requirements but as I've heard they also require it for foreigners to provide to protect the Philippine citizens.
U can marry without the permission but u can't marry in a church or civil wedding. What i mean is u can marry in islam way. My husband and I got married in one of the mosque in manila. I am Christian and he doesn't have the permission until now. Moreover, our marriage is registered in NSO(national statistic office) and validated by DFA(department of foreign affairs). However, one of the saddest part was, I wasn't able to experience to be a bride, like had a wedding dress nor walking the aisle with bouquet of flowers. But even if ur wife-to-be doesn't want to live in ksa, i think u need to get permission and register ur marriage in ur country for future purposes like the rights of ur future children.
Yes, there is a mosque in Manila that will do nikah without asking any papers from you. As what Diane said, better to get the permission regardless. She can't even get to visit you as your wife without the permission and things will be complicated when kids come into picture.
Hi xyz, what is the procedure of getting married in PH. My partner can’t obtain approval, so we are planning to get married in PH. Please let me know how and which Mosque in Manila. Thank you
There is one in taguig city i think. They call it golden mosque. They do nikah there. I am just not sure if they process it until registration to nso.
where is the mosque in manila what the real location pls help me they accept second married there.. cos im a filipina and im still married from phil but it 8years ago we're not together and im not unulled. and i have boy friend were both herenin saudi and he want to marry me but how cos im still married do i married again and wat papers do i need
Hi Dianne, what is the procedure of getting married in PH. My partner can’t obtain approval, so we are planning to get married in PH. Please let me know how and which Mosque in Manila. Thank you
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Hi im married with saudi national in the philippines..u should convert to islam and go to shariah court and they will tell u what to do..
Salam..
I am a non-saudi girl and he is a saudi.he paid a wasta already but still we can't get the marriage permission yet. This wasta helped his relative once so he is a trustworthy person.
It has been almost 6 months since the wasta issuing it for us.
last time, he said the manager only want to sign a paper once a week. Is there any other way to make it faster?
How long usually the marriage permission done if we have wasta? Because I thought having a wasta means we cant get it done quickly
Are you a filipina living in KSA? Ideally, wasta should be able to make things easier but in reality, it cant be 101% assurance to get things done. Saudi government can change their laws and rules overnight without batting an eye. Everything is so unpredictable. Is your Saudi guy submitted his application? Does he has the file number where he can use to follow up where is his papers got caught in the process?
There is no fixed time frame with the marriage permission. Our marriage permission took 3 months to be approved.
It doesn't mean you have a wasta you will get the approval quickly. Based on my experienced after paying loads of amount we still waited for 2 years for the approval.
May I ask what will I do f my husband who is there in saudi will get married with a filipina who is also there in saudi..what can I do to file them a case?
Hi goodday... I have relationship in a saudi man that is 36yrs old now, we are planning to get married but in the policy the saudi man should be 40yrs old above to marry other nationality, we ask and ask for help and im so depress for waiting, but still we cannot find other way, is there other way that we can have approval? We would really appriciate any suggestion
And if we got married in PH to avoid doing harram,, then after 4years he got the approval here, is that okay? Will the goverment here knows that we got married in PH even before they give him approval? Or we will have conficts?
Thankyou
My husband got the permission even if he was just 33 years old. I think the approval or rejection of the application greatly depends on who is working on the Saudi's papers. Most of the things in Saudi is not written in stone so every situation is different.
You can always marry outside KSA and it will not guarantee anything and without the permission, it will never be legallu recognized in KSA.
Assalamualaikom!!
Respect my post....
!i just ask about meeting my husband here in saudi arabia...we already married in philippines and my husband is a saudi national.and im working also here in saudi arabia and i just want to see my husband in a hotel if i have day off..is it allowed i can see him here in saudi arabia?i just brought with me our marriage contract from philippines..and he have a copy also..is this valid?
....thank you for the response...
No, it is not allowed. If your Saudi man didnt get the permission to marry a non-saudi, any marriage he contracted outside Saudi is not legally recognized. If you see him in Saudi Arabia, you are taking a risk of being caught and be charged of being with the opposite sex who is not your mahram.
Ok..thank you so much for the information!so then what should we do in a first place?i mean things needed so that i can see or meet my husband in saudi arabia?
Tell your husband to apply for the permission that he will be allowed to marry non-saudi. There is no away around it. I hope there is direct message here so it will be easier to reply. Without this approval, your marriage will never be registered and recognized here in Saudi.
Im also a filipina married to a saudi. If you can give me any email or even instagram i can message you easier.
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Wael
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hi,
I just read your comment here and i was hoping if i can get some of the answer for my question related to marriage between saudi and non saudi.
Check your inbox, kabayan.
Hi, is it okay that we got married first in philippines before the permit was released? Will the saudi embassy in manila will authenticate our MC for example our MC was 2016 and the permit was given 2017? Hope u can help me with regards this.
Thanks.
@Raihana
What I know is that when the marriage occurred before the permission, the Saudi will be applying for the pardon because technically he broke the law.
But I think as long as he got the permission, everything else becomes easy even at the Saudi embassy in Manila.
Thanks for your reply. What happened to us is that at first he apply for permission to marry non-saudi here in d kingdom but they r asking med cert of the 1st wife which we cant provide. So his friend advised him to just apply permission to marry outside kingdom bz they said its much more easier to be approved. Right now we r waiting for the approval for him to marry outside. They said they will forward it to saudi embassy in manila, like announce that this Saudi is allowed to marry, but I really dont know if that will be the case. I have called our Saudi embassy in manila and they said all they do there is for visa stamping & authenticate. And they said as long as there is permission they can authenticate our MC even we do it before. My husb planning to bring our MC after authentication from there to process that Il be transferred under him since I am working here as well, bz we think its much more complicated if we will process as residence visa from manila. What u think? How I wish we could talk privately so I can relay to u more and sorry for this long story coz we really have waited long for the approval.
Thanks.
On the side note, there is no other way around your situation. He needs to get that permission to marry non-Saudi to legally recognized your marriage in saudi government and would allow hin to transfer you in his sponsorship.
The approval of the permission is only in Ministry of Interior then they will forward it to Foreign Affairs to provide for the visa application number for the issuance of wife visa that will then be forwarded to Saudi embassy in Manila. So kung walang permission, walang ifoforward sa saudi embassy sa manila. If no permission, no wife visa for you. You marriage cant be registered in saudi. You are not his wife in saudi. You cant be transferred under his sponsorship kahit kasal kayo kahit saang bansa pa. You wont be added in his family card. You will never be considered wife of a saudi with all the benefits that a legal wife of saudi is entitled to.
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Hi xyz!
Can you give me list of requirements to marry a saudi here in Phil after he obtained the permission. I would really appreciate your reply. Thanks a lot!
@esa if you can email me, just email me. I dont check often this site so I might see the comments late.
Just a quick overview, if you can go to Sharia’h court in Ph then the better. They will just ask for your personal details and his and they will do the paper work. They will also submit it to NSO for the authentication. You need the authenticated one for you to submit for Blue Ribbon in DFA for the Saudi embassy to honor it.
Good am. I would like to ask really urgent. Muslim male fiance from Indonesia we're planning to get married here I'm a Muslim too, is it necessary to get a certificate legal capacity to marry in Indonesia embassy manila? Or is the certificate legal capacity to marry is only for church or civil wedding only and no need for us to obtain the said certificate because its not mentioned in the shariya law requirement. Thank you hoping for your reply
hello i need help. i am a filipina girl and im still married from phil to my ex husband.im marrried 8years ago. and we're not together and im not unulled to him. im here now in saudi arabia working here and i have boyfriend here.and he want to marry me here in saudi .can i get married again even im not unulled to my ex husband what documents do i need to prepare i want to marry my boyfriend here saudi but how can i take second married
You have a filipino boyfriend in Saudi? You must annul your marriage first. Philippine law states a married man/woman can not remarry unless the previous marriage is annulled.
Salamalaikum Brothers and Sisters,
I need your help/advise. I met a saudi guy here in qatar and we are now 2 years in relation. Since there is a gulf issue, he leave qatar and we planned that i will move to saudi as well and look for a job. However it seems so hard to come to saudi as there is no like visit visa then look for job option. Can anyone help me where i can apply for a job and can i move from qatar to saudi ? Im a filipina with facilities management and real estate job experience here in qatar for 6 years.
Thank you so much for all your help.
Sarah
Hi to all.
We are married in Philippines in islamic way, way back 2017.
While my stay in Bahrain, i got pregnant by this saudi man. Will the government of Bahrain accept this marriage contract notarized by DFA?
What will be the nationality or passport of child then?
Thank you for the answers