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Can we celebrate Milaad?

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Salaam,I just wanted to ask about Milaad and celebrating the Prophets (PBUH) Birthday, and what Islam or the Quran says about these things. Should we celebrate it, and if so, in which way is it best described to do so?

Jazakala Khair,

-sister fozia


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  1. There is no celebration in milad, the quran says that we should not copy of jews and christianity and they are celebrating birthday but we should say salawat

  2. ASSALAMALAIKUM-
    What is the origin of birthday celebrations?
    ANSWER-Birthday celebrations are actually rooted in paganism.
    The Prophet (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said: “Are you observing a pagan custom! I was thinking of invoking such a curse upon you that your appearances might be deformed.” [Ibn Majah]
    TO DO ANY UN-ISLAMIC ACT WE ARE NOT PERMITTED
    PROOF IS REQUIRED FROM.....
    1]QURAN-
    2]HADEES-
    3]SAHABAS LIFE OR ELSE ITS SURELY A BIDDAH
    PLS SEE THE PIONEER WHO ESTABLISHED BIRTHDAYS IN THE WORLD AS ALL THE BIBLE PROPHETS DIDNT CELEBRATE ANY BIRTHDAY-
    http://www.triumphpro.com/birthdays-origin.htm
    The one single mention of a celebration being held in commemoration of someone's day of birth is for Egyptian PHAROAH.[PHIRAUN]

    Observing the Customs of Non-Muslims (I)
    There was a pre-Islamic custom in Arabia that people who walked behind biers would cast off their cloaks as a mark of grief and keep only their shirts on. On seeing people in this state the Prophet (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) reprimanded them severely with the above mentioned words. The people immediately put their cloaks back on and never acted in this manner again.

    The Prophet (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) put an end to the observance of all customs observed by Arabs prior to Islam. Similarly, when Islam spread outside the Arabian peninsula in the time of the Sahabah, they also prohibited the adoption of the customs of the Persians (Zoroastrians) and Romans (Christians and Jews). If we cast aside the teachings of the Prophet (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) we cast aside the protection that Allah (subhana wa ta’ala) has provided us with against the Shaitaan, in the same manner that if one casts aside one’s clothes they expose their body to the cold.

    MUHAMMAD salahu alai hi waslam's 63 YEARS LIFE BIRTHDAY WAS NOT DONE
    Exaggerated Praise of the Prophet of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him)On the authority of Sayyiduna Umar ibn al- Khattab (Allah be pleased with him) that he heard the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) say: �Do not exaggerate in praising me as the Christians praised the son of Mary, for I am only a Slave. So, call me the Slave of Allah and His Messenger.� (Sahih al-Bukhari, no: 3261)
    NABI SALALUHAALAIHIWASALAM PERIOD 63 YEARS BIRTHDAY NOT DONE
    A].Hazrat abu bakar sidique PERIOD 2 YEARS BIRTHDAY NOT DONE
    B]Hazrat umer raziAllahu thala PERIOD 10 YEARS.. BIRTHDAY NOT DONE
    C]Hazrat usman raziallah PERIOD 12 YEARS.. . BIRTHDAY NOT DONE
    D]Hazrat ali raziallah hu thala PERIOD 5 YEARS... BIRTHDAY NOT DONE
    E]Hazrat IMAM ABU HANIFA PERIOD 47 YEARSH..BIRTHDAY NOT DONE
    F]IMAM SHAFI PERIOD 55 YEARS . .BIRTHDAY NOT DONE
    G]Imam hanbal period..... PERIOD 38 YEARS BIRTHDAY NOT DONE
    H]ABDUL KHADER JEELANI- PERIOD 60 YEARS BIRTHDAY NOT DONE
    ------------------ ------------------------------ ---------
    TOTAL 292 YEARS. BIRTHDAY NOT DONE
    NO ONE DARED TO ATTEMPT THIS BIDDAH [INNOVATION] ROOTED IN THE TRADITION OF
    PHIRAUN THE ENEMY OF ALLAH-
    https://www.facebook.com/notes/ali-yousuff/idd-milad-a-innovation-of-the-shias-to-malign-islam/644564585600782
    'HOW DID THIS BIRTHDAY OR MILAD PRACTICE ENTER ISLAM READ......
    THE MISCHIEF OF SHIAS...BORN TO DEFY ISLAM.......
    The first to invent this heresy in Islam was the Fatimi State[8] in Cairo at the fourth Hijri century.
    They had invented six birthdays celebrations; for; The prophet Sala Allah Alyhi wasalam, Ali, Fatima, Al Hassan and Al Hussein,(May Allah be pleased with them all) and a birthday for their present monarch as well.
    In ancient Rome, the emperor gave huge parties in honor of his own birthday, which included parades, circuses, and gladiatorial combat.including many birthdays of gods and famous men

  3. I think celebration is not allowed but in sense to have a session of hadees and giving hidayat of some people on a day will be a good task to give a right way to the people instead to have big mela and other festivals.

    • ASSALAMALAIKUM
      THIS ONLY ADDS FUEL TO THE FIRE[OUR OPINIONS AND ASSUMPTIONS]
      to have a session of hadees and giving hidayat......
      EXAMPLE OF OUR FOREFATHERS ADDITION LIKE THE ABOVE- HIDAYAH BECAME A SOURCE OF CURSE-
      1st Eid-e-Miladun Nabi procession/juloos was taken out for the first time on 5th July 1933/12th Rabbi ul awwal 1353.IN UNDIVIDED INDIA-
      For this license was taken from the britishers (Newspaper Kohistan 22 July 1964).
      The Milad un Nabi procession was taken out by muslims citing the reason that HINDUS & SIKHS take out procession OF THEIR LEADERS,SO WE HAVE TO DO THE SAME(Newspaper Kohistan 22 July 1964)
      REGARDS

  4. Assalamu'alaikum sister,

    Celebration of mawlid is not ony an innovation but ignorance. It is baseless and is from the innovations brought into Islam by some Shi'i Fatimid individuals approximately 300 years after hijrah. This event was never Islamic.

    I heard few students of knowledge say that Rasoolullah صلى الله عليه وسلم was never born on 12th, but he was born on 9th or Rabee' al Awwal, but he died on 12th. "So, is it for his death they rejoice?" They ask. Even many historians suggest this date for his birth, صلى الله عليه وسلم.

    Interestingly, Shaikh Abdul Bari Fathullah, a student of Shaikh Albani Rahimahullah and a professor at Imam Saud university in Riyadh said that the Prophet ﷺ was neither born on 12th, nor did he die on 12th, so this celebration of theirs is invalid in every sense. Shaikh has done PhD on this subject and he has thoroughly researched it.

    Anyways, even if we agree the our beloved Prophet ﷺ was born on 12th Rabee' al Awwal, we are not allowed to celebrate.

    Some people become emotional and ask "should we not celebrate the birth of the best of creation? Should we bot rejoice for the birth of the mercy to both the worlds? Should we not rejoice for having been chosen by Allah for sending His Final Prophet ﷺ among us?"

    I ask "do you love the Prophet ﷺ more than Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Ali, Aishah and others among the Sahabah رضي الله عنهم? Do you claim to be better followers than them? Do you claim that they were not happy and joyous for having been chosen as Muslims at the hands of Rahmatullil Aalameen ﷺ ?"

    Rather, they understood the deen in the most correct manner and we will NEVER succeed until we do what they did and leave what they left.

    Whenever we are confused about a matter being allowed or it is an innovation, we must weigh it on the hadeeth of Umm al Mumineen, Aaishah bint Abi Bakr رضي الله عنهما, who narrated:

    Rasoolullah ﷺ said: whoever innovates something new in this matter of ours which is not from it (in another narration: which does not have our approval) then it is rejected. (Sahih al Bukhari, 2697)

    So, the conditions for bid'ah are:

    1. Something new
    2. Part of the deen (done as a part of the deen)
    3. Unapproved/No proof for it

    If we weigh Meelad on this, it qualifies all the three conditions and hence, it is a bid'ah. I learnt this rule from Shaikh Dr. Murtaza bin Baksh.

    When Shaikh bin Baaz Rahimahullah spoke about Meelad celebrations, he cried feeling bad about the ignorance of the Muslims. You can watch that video here:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC1jOxaMZRU

    We have an approved act which can be done on Prophet's birthday ﷺ. It is fasting, and it is not to be done in Rabee' al Awwal alone, but every Monday, if a person wants to. Rasoolullah ﷺ usually fasted on Mondays. On being asked for the reason, he ﷺ said:

    It was the day on which I was born. on which I was commissioned with prophethood or revelation was sent to me (part of a hadith in Muslim, 2603)

    If we apply the conditions of bid'ah here, we see that it is not something new because the Prophet ﷺ did it, it is a part of the deen and is approved. So, it is not a bid'ah.

    I ask Allah to Protect us against innovations and make us reach Him while we are upon sunnah in totality, aameen.

    Abu Abdul Bari
    IslamicAnswers.com Editor

    • Watch this link by Sheikh Hamza Yusuf
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2x14RQLgB9s&sns=em

      • Dear Apprentice, thank you for your link. However, comparison of the words of Hamza Yusuf the Ash'aree with that of the proofs is ridiculous. As I have mentioned above, meelad celebrations is an innovation under every circumstance, whoever is celebrating it for whatever reason given.

        Please follow the evidences, not the deception of the likes of Hamza Yusuf. You can know more about his deviations here so that you can protect yourself and stick to the correct scholars and learn from them instead.

        Abu Abdul Bari
        IslamicAnswers.com Editor

    • ASSALAMALIKUM-
      ONE MORE PROOF -
      Al-Tirmidhi HadithHadith 2056 Narrated byAbuHurayrah
      Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) said,
      "Men's deeds are presented (to Allah) on Mondays and Thursdays, and I like mine to be presented when I am fasting."
      “The Ruler of Irbal, King Muzaffar Abu Saeed Kaukari, was an irreligious and prodigal king. He ordered the scholars of his time to act according to their opinions and discard the practice of following any school of law. A group of learned men inclined towards him. He (this king) organized Mawlood sessions during the month of Rabi al Awwal. He was the first king ever to introduce this practice.”
      A ‘scholar’ by the name of Abul Khattab Umar bin Hasan bin Dihya Al Andalusi supported and assisted the king in this innovation.

      Allamah Ibn Kathir (May Allah Ta'ala have mercy on him) has reported on the authority of As-Sabt about this person,
      قال السبط: وقد كان كابن عنين في ثلب المسلمين والوقيعة فيهم، ويتزيد في كلامه فترك الناس الرواية عنه وكذبوه
      (البداية والنهاية - 13 / 169دار إحياء التراث العربي)
      “Ibn Unain (Ibn Dihya) used to insult the Muslims and vilify them. He would make additions in his report and exaggerate. The people stopped narrating traditions from him and falsified him.” (Al-Bidaya wa al-Nihaya, 3/144-146)

      Ibn Hajar Al-Asqalani (May Allah Ta'ala have mercy on him) has commented on him,

      وكان ظاهري المذهب كثير الوقيعة في الأئمة وفي السلف من العلماء خبيث اللسان أحمق شديد الكبر قليل النظر في أمور الدين متهاونا
      (لسان الميزان - 4 / 296مؤسسة الأعلمي للمطبوعات – بيروت)

      “He was a follower of the Zahiri school of thought and often slandered the scholars and the scholars of the past. He possessed an evil tongue and was stupid, self-conceited, lacked insight in religious matters, and looked down upon religion.” (Lisan al-Mizan, 4/296)

  5. Read carefully,
    Well answered by everyone, indeed alhumdulillah!

    Sister Fozia, Simply think, how the last Prophet and the last Messenger of Allaah (subhanahu wa ta'ala), spent his entire life. And then compare it with the net result (in this case your own self). You will find the answer. Prophet Muhammad (sal lal laho elahe wasallam) life was full of hardships and prayers. Simply, try to follow Prophet Muhammad (sal lal laho elahe wasallam) Sunnah and insha'Allaah eventually you will find the answer by yourself. Amen!

    Allaah Knows the Best!

  6. AsSalaamu Alaikum Sister,

    You have received good advice already, MashaAllah.

    No doubt, celebrating the milaad is agreed to be bid'ah in Islam. However, rejoicing the birthday of the Prophet (s.a.w.s) isn't bid'ah - rather, it's a sunnah.

    The Prophet (s.a.w.s) fasted on his birthdays, so everyone who wants to show love for him should also fast on those days.

    It's also part of showing love for the Prophet (s.a.w.s) to learn new things about his life, and to put what you have learned into practice. This can also be done through Khutbah (Friday jum'a speeches) or through a normal gathering to remind people about the life of the Prophet (s.a.w.s) - about how he lived his life and about how he passed away, just to revive the iman and to awake the dead hearts to follow the light of sunnah. No one among the scholars has gone against this, rather they encouraged it.

    As you can also send prayers (salawaat) upon the Prophet (s.a.w.s) many times during most of your times. All this is an indication of how much you love our beloved Prophet (s.a.w.s).

    As for gathering and dancing (men and women mixed) and uttering all sort of bid'ah speeches (which do not motivate the hearts to learn a new sunnah nor to practice the sunnah), is not a good thing at all. It has no basis in Islam, and doing it would just lead the heart astray.

    Imam Jalaluddin Al-Suyuti (r.a) was asked about the milaad, and he said the following:

    "The root of doing milaad to me, which is for the people to gather and read something from the Holy Quran, and to narrate some stories of the initial life about the Prophet (s.a.w.s), in addition to the wonderful things that occurred during his birth, and then they eat and depart, without adding anything (haram), then that is among the good bid'ah, which gains rewards for the doer, because it involves honoring the Prophet (s.a.w.s), and showing happiness and rejoicing due to his Holy birth." (Al-Hawi Lil-fatawa: 1/181- 182)

    However, if you see what people call milaad today, it's very far from what the Imam meant above.

    Anyway sister, if you feel any love towards our Beloved Prophet (s.a.w.s), and you feel like expressing the love for him, then the best way to do so is by following the below guidance.

    1- Fast on Mondays.
    2- Say salawaat upon the Prophet (s.a.w.s) as much as you can everyday.
    3- Learn at least one hadith everyday, or read seerah about the life of the Prophet (s.a.w.s).

    May Allah (swt) increase our love for His Beloved Prophet (s.a.w.s)! Ameen.

    • ASSLAMALAIKUM-
      DEAR-ISAAH-
      INSPITE OF ALL THE EVIDENCE AND CLARIFICATION YOU GOING BACK TO THE PAVILLION-
      THIS WILL MISGUIDE PEOPLE SAYING WITHOUT EVIDENCE IS A VERY BIG SIN PLS KEEP IN MIND AND AVOID THESE STATEMENTS-
      However, rejoicing the birthday of the Prophet (s.a.w.s) isn't bid'ah - rather, it's a sunnah.

      PLS PROVE THAT THIS IS SUNNAH FROM SUNNAH LET US SEE IF YOU ARE TRUTHFUL-
      THIS ALSO HAS NO PROOF ANYWHERE IN SUNNAH BUT THE HABIT OF THE SCHOLARS LIKE SAYUTI IS ADDING PERSONAL OPINIONS IN ISLAM AND FINALLY ALL THE CENTURIES ALL THE NATIONS AND ALL THE SELF APPOINTED SCHOLARS HAVE CHANGED THE FACEOF ISLAM -
      FATWAS FATWAS FATWAS FATWAS FATWAS FATWAS &FATWAS Imam Jalaluddin Al-Suyuti (r.a) was asked about the milaad, and he said the following:

      "The root of doing milaad to me, which is for the people to gather and read something from the Holy Quran, and to narrate some stories of the initial life about the Prophet (s.a.w.s), in addition to the wonderful things that occurred during his birth, and then they eat and depart, without adding anything (haram), then that is among the good bid'ah, which gains rewards for the doer, because it involves honoring the Prophet (s.a.w.s), and showing happiness and rejoicing due to his Holy birth." (Al-Hawi Lil-fatawa: 1/181- 182)
      REGARDS

      • Wa Alaikum Salaam Warahmatullahi O' Brother ALI YOUSUFF

        I think you misunderstood my point completely. What I meant by "sunnah" is that the Prophet (s.a.w.s) fasted on his birthdays (Mondays), and therefore everyone who loves him should also fast on those days. Following the sunnah and fasting on Mondays is out of showing love and rejoicing due to his Holy birth as in being grateful to Allah for him.

        I also brought the fatwa of Imam As-Suyuti to give no excuse for those who celebrate the milaad today, as most of them use the same fatwa to say it's ok to celebrate it, and so I tried to differentiate between what Imam As-Suyuti meant and what they do today (or what they call milaad).

        So just get the wisdom Brother, and there would be no misunderstanding, InshaAllah.

        Feel free to ask more questions if you still did not get my point.

        JazaakAllahu Khair

        • ASSALAMALAIKUM'
          SORRY DEAR I HAVE SEEN THE WHOLE STATEMENT-
          You have received good advice already,
          AGREED HERE-
          MashaAllah.No doubt, celebrating the milaad is agreed to be bid'ah in Islam.
          DEFIED HERE-
          However, rejoicing the birthday of the Prophet (s.a.w.s) isn't bid'ah - rather, it's a sunnah.

          SAYUTIS PERMISSIBILITY CRIME-OVER RULES THE 1ST 3 GENERATIONS-THEN TO SUPPORT YOUR CLAIM YOU QUOTED SAYUTI'S STATEMENT PLS SEE-
          However, if you see what people call milaad today,
          it's very far from what the Imam meant above.and so I tried to differentiate what the Imam meant and what they are doing.HERE YOU HAVE JUSTIFIED SAYUTIS VERSION AND REVERED WITH SAYING IMAM WITH HIS NAME&HADEES CALLS SUCH PERSONS-
          I N O V A T O R S-BETRAYERS OF TRUST.....
          Prophet Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam said concerning one who introduces innovation in Madeenah:
          “Allaah will not accept any obligatory or naafil act of worship from him.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (7300) and Muslim (1370)
          REMEMBER-PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE DOING RIGHT BY TAKING THESE INNOVATORS TO CLOUD NINE HERE IN THIS WORLD-SEE RESULT IN KHAYAMAH-

          ALL-ALLIANCES- WILL FALL APART-......
          Those who followed them will say:'would that we could live again, so that we could disown them as they have disowned us'. 'thus will Allah show them their deeds(causing them) bitter regrets.
          HOPE U AGREE THAT I DIDNT MISUNDERSTAND........AND PROVED U SUPPORTED THE THEORY OF SAYUTI AN[INNOVATOR] WHO PERMITED MILAD WITH HIS WHIMS AND FANCIES-
          REGARDS

          • Wa Alaikum Salaam Warahmatullahi Wabarakaatuh Brother ALI YOUSUFF,

            No doubt, celebrating the milaad is agreed to be bid'ah in Islam. However, rejoicing the birthday of the Prophet (s.a.w.s) isn't bid'ah - rather, it's a sunnah.

            Equivalent to what I meant

            "We meeting on a website and talking is bid'ah, but advising each other isn't bid'ah, rather it's a sunnah."

            So it's like Imam As-Suyuti was telling us that, if we abstain from haram acts and haram speeches on this website, then it's a good bid'ah, which could gain us rewards from Allah, because it involves strengthening iman of one another and motivating each other to grow more closer to Allah.

            Anyway, Imam As-Suyuti isn't the only well-known and reputable scholar who said so, but there are others too (like Ibn Hajar Al-asqalani).

            However, Shiekh Al-Islam Ibn Taimiyyah was also against it as it was bid'ah, yet he said, "Perhaps, those doing it will be rewarded based on the love that they showed for the Prophet (s.a.w.s), not based on the bid'ah"...So when I say “rejoicing the birthday is sunnah”, I am referring to the type of love that Shiekh Ibn Taimiyyah meant in his statement, not the bid’ah. What I believe in is the three guidance I gave previously.

            When you fast on those days, you are rejoicing his birthday. And that is the best way to do it, since that is what the the Prophet (s.a.w.s) himself and his Sahabah (r.a) did.

            When you learn about his life or say salwaat upon him, in aditdion to following his sunnah, you indicate much of your true love for him.

            1-Fast on Mondays.
            2- Say salawaat upon the Prophet (s.a.w.s) as much as you can every day.
            3- Learn at least one hadith every day, or read Seerah of the Prophet (s.a.w.s) and of his wives (r.a), and Sahabah (r.a)

            This is not limited to just his birthdays, but his whole life as a Guidance and Mercy from Allah to Mankind. So we need to remember him at every moment in our lives.

            Though there is nothing wrong with gathering (daily/weekly/monthly/yearly) and reminding each other of him (s.a.w.s), especially when we are weak in iman, provided that we abstain from haram acts (just as the way we garther occasionally to talk about Islam, and then have lunch/dinner and depart). However, choosing a particular date (for gathering) and ignoring all other dates (with a bid'ah believe), is also a great ignorance which needs to be avoided.

            ...............................................................................................

            Anyway, today it's so sad that we fight and curse each other for little things. We just look at the people and then reject whatever they do even if there is some good in it.

            If there are both good and bad in what they do, we just need to be humble and sit down with them nicely, talk to them in a polite way, while we appreciate them for their good intention and their love for the Holy Prophet (s.a.w.s), and then explain to them what we find unacceptable about what they do. I do not think they would reject the message, if they are being approached this way. But the more we look at “only” the bad side of it, and then curse them, the more they look at "only" the good side of it, and then reject the message entirely.

            And Allah (swt) Has advised us and said, "Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good advice, and debate with them in the most dignified manner. Your Lord is aware of those who stray from His path, and He is aware of those who are guided." (Quran 16: 125)

  7. ASSLAMALAIKUM
    SEE WHERE THE FATWAS HAVE LANDED THE UMMAH-
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=616820825021579&set=vb.434596956577301&type=3&permPage=1

    60 FEET CAKE FOR MILAD MADE FROM DONATIONS AND THIS IS THE REASON
    THE MILAD IS PERFORMED BECAUSE THE ORGANISERS MAKE SOMEWHERE AROUND 2/3 LAKHS AFTER ALL EXPENCES SAVED FROM COLLECTION OF DONATIONS FROM LIKE MINDED PUBLIC AND LEGISLATION DONE BY PEOPLE LIKE SAYUTI AND PRAISED BY MR ISAAH-
    However, rejoicing the birthday of the Prophet (s.a.w.s) isn't bid'ah - rather, it's a sunnah.
    https://www.facebook.com/photo.phpv=465003120232440&set=vb.100001682670578&type=2&theater

    SO SAYUTI THINKS HE IS HAZRATH UMAR OR ONE OF THE KHULFE RASHADEEN-EVEN HAZARTH UMAR DIDNT MAKE ANY NEW BIDDAH-THE ESTABLISHED PRAYER OF TARAVEEH HE ASSEMBLED PEOPLE WHEN THEY FORGOT THE JAMMAH TARAVEEH WHICH WAS DONE FOR ONLY 2/3 DAYS BY NABISALAHAUALAHAIWASALAM AND REMINDED PEOPLE AND STOPPED THEM FROM READING IN SEPRATE GROUPS-
    AND THE SUB CONTINENT SELF APPOINTED SCHOLARS HAVE MADE A TREND OEW TWO [2] TYPES OF BIDDAHS TO RUN THEIR SHOPS EXAMPLE IT THIS FROM SAYUTI-
    then that is among the good bid'ah, which gains rewards for the do....
    So it would not be befitting for 'Umar radiallaahu 'anhu being who he was, to oppose the words of the best of mankind, Muhammad sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam by saying 'What a pleasing innovation about any bid'ah. So can this innovation be that which Allaah's Messenger was referring to when he said that "... every innovation leads astray ..."? No. Rather it can be said with certainity that this innovation about which 'Umar said, 'I am pleased with this innovation ...' falls outside what was intended by Allaah's Messenger sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam when he said, "... every bid'ah leads astray." Thus when 'Umar said, 'I am pleased with this innovation ...' he was referring to the effect - that the people had gathered together behind one Imaam while before that, they were (praying) in separate groups. And this praying (behind a single Imaam) during Ramadhan had its origin from the Messenger sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam, as is proven from that which is reported by al-Bukhaaree and Muslim from 'Aa'ishah, may Allaah be pleased with her, that the Prophet sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam led the people in prayer for three nights and then hesitated doing so on the fourth night, saying, "Indeed I feared that it would become obligatory upon you, but you would not be able to cope with that." [Reported by Bukhaaree (Eng. trans. vol.1, no.696) and Muslim (Eng. trans. vol.1, no.16

  8. ASSALAMALAIKUM SEE FOR THOSE WHO PLAY WITH ISLAM BE IT SAYUTI OR ANY[MADE GREAT HERO BY THE LOCALITES DUE TO MEMORISING THE QURAN IN CHILDHOOD] THEN HE BECOMES A SCHOLAR HE MAKES MULTITUDES OF DEVIATORS IN HIS LIFE TIME LATEST-[EXAMPLE TAHIR UL KHADRI]
    EVILS OF INNOVATIONS-BETRAYED TRUST.....
    Prophet Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam said concerning one who introduces innovation in Madeenah:
    “Allaah will not accept any obligatory or naafil act of worship from him.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (7300) and Muslim (1370)
    This is because the innovator believes that he is doing something good and therefore sees no need to repent.
    He also said, ".so cling to the original state of affairs" [al-Hilya 6/376] meaning stick to the Way of Muhammad (sallallaahu `alaihi wasallam) and his Companions.
    Imaam al-Awzaa'ee said, "patiently restrict yourselves to the sunnah, STOP where the people STOPPED, say what they said, AVOID what they AVOIDED. Take to the path of the salaf[1ST 3 GENERATIONS-,for indeed what was SUFFICIENT for them was SUFFICIENT for you." [ash-Sharee'ah pg. 58]
    Ibraaheem al-Masayrah said, "HE WHO HONOURS AN INNOVATOR HAS ASSISTED IN DEMOLITION OF ISLAM" [Sharh Usul I'tiqaad 1/139]

  9. ASSALAMALIKUM-
    Anyway, today it's so sad that we fight and curse each other for little things.
    SORRY 1ST WE RE NOT FIGHTING RATHER TRYING TO SAVE YOU FROM SHIRK IN THE RISALTH OF NABISALAHUALAHAUWASALAM YOU DIDNT KNOW I SUPPOSE-ADDING ANYTHING IN THE TEACHINGS OR PRACTICE OF NABISLALAHUALAIHIWASALAM IS SHIRK [SHAREEK TO ADD] IN HIS RISALATH-

    I AM HAPPILY LOVINGLY READING AND ANSWERING IN FACT ENJOYING TO REVEAL THE TRUTH-
    BECASUE I AM PROD ALLAH HAS MADE ME HIS BELOVED BY GIVING HIS AUTHENTIC KNOWLEDGE-

    THERE IS NO PROOF FROM 1ST 3 GENERATIONS OF THE REJOICING POINT- YOU ARE TRYING TO ESTABLISH-YOUR POINT OF REJOICING ONLY ADDS TO BIDDAH-BECAUSE SAHABAS WERE THE GREATEST LOVERS OF PROPHET SALALAHUALAIHIWASALAM-THEY DIDNT WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO ATTEMPT-AND PROVE FROM HERE AND THERE-

    PLEASE NOTE IF IBNE TAIMIYAH TELLS REJOICE BIDDAH WONT BECOME SUNNAH-
    BECAUSE WHAT EVER TYPE WHO EVER SAYS HAS TO PROVE FROM QURAN AND HADEES-

    SORRY DEAR BHAI YOU ARE AGAIN STUCK OR INFLUENCED WITH THE INNOVATORS[AND ASQALANI WAS AN INNOVATOR BUT LATER HE UNDERSTOOD THE TAWHEED AND THE CONCEPT OF SALAFIS LIVES OF SAHABAS HE CHANGED TO THE PURE ISLAMIC TEACHINGS-
    MAY BE YOU ARE READING- THE EARLIER VERSION OF HIS BELIEF IN MILAD-

    WHO INVENTED TWO TYPES OF BIDDAH?THE BLIND TAQLEED GROUP IN 460 OR 470 HIJRI- INVENTED THIS 2 TYPE THEORY-WITHOUT EVIDENCE-YOU MIGHT BE KNOWING-THE TAQLEED GROUP WHO ARE PIONEERS OF BIDDAH IN ISLAM-
    SO I DONT FOLLOW THEM-I DONT HAVE ORDERS-NOR THEIR SCHOLARS WHOM U ARE QUOTING-

    THE LAST SERMON‏-
    I STRICTLY FOLLOW THIS AND NO OTHER SOURCE-BECAUSE ALL ARE INVALID-
    I LEAVE BEHIND 2-THINGS,QURAN & MY SUNNAH&IF YOU FOLLOW THESE YOU WILL NEVER GO ASTRAY-

    THIS INCLUDES THE TABAYIN TABE TABAYIN AND 4 IMAMS-LIFE NOT AFTER THAT-
    No doubt, celebrating the milaad is agreed to be bid'ah in Islam.THAT ENDS THE MATTER THEN AND THERE-

    However, rejoicing the birthday of the Prophet (s.a.w.s) isn't bid'ah - rather, it's a sunnah-

    PLS QUOTE FROM QURAN HADEES OR 1ST 3 GENERATIONS OR ELSE YOU WILL FALL IN GREAT
    ERROR I AM TRYING TO CLEAR YOU FROM YR CHILD HOOD BELIEF-
    Though there is nothing wrong with gathering (daily/weekly/monthly/yearly) and reminding each other of him (s.a.w.s)BUT NOT ON THE DAY OF HIS BIRTH -

    If there are both good and bad in what they do
    [THESE BIDDATHIS HAVE MADE THIS TWO TYPE TO COLLECT DONATIONS FOR FAME AND SURVIVAL-
    ANYONE WHO DOES ANY ADDING IN ISLAM EXCEPT THE KHULFE RASHADEEN IT IS INVALID-
    Prophet Muhammad (saw) said, "Whoever among you live (for long time) will see many difference, I URGE YOU TO FOLLOW MY SUNNAH & THE WAY OF THE RIGHTLY GUIDED KHALEEFAS who come after me. Hold on to it firmly. Beware of newly invented matters, for EVERY BIDDAH IS GOING ASTRAY{Ahmad 4/126, Tirmidhee 2676}NABISALAHAUALAHAIWASALAM HAS TOLD EVERY BIDDAH THATS FINAL-
    "Verily, Allaah will not change the condition of a people, as long as they do not change it themselves." Surat-ur-Ra'ad [13:11].
    HOPE YOU WILL LEAVE THE REJOICING REJOICING FEELING STUCK IN YR MIND BECAUSE WARNING IS THERE IN HADEES-RasoolAllah [May Allah bless Him and grant Him peace] stated:
    "On the Day of Judgement, some people will come to me when
    I will be standing by Haudh-e-Kauser (Well).
    They will be grabbed and taken towards the Hellfire.
    I shall say: "These are my people" but in reply I will be told:
    "These are the people who introduced innovations after you......
    SHUKRAN FOR YOUR TIME-
    REGARDS

    • Ok. JazakAllahu Khair Brother. I appreciate your time.

      • ASSALAMALAIKUM-
        "The believers are nothing but brothers, so make peace between your two brothers and beware of Allah that perhaps you may be shown mercy." (Al-Hujaraat: 10)
        And, noble, indeed is the act of making peace and reconciling between two arguing parties. In fact, it is superior to voluntary fasting and sunnah and nafl prayer.
        The Prophet (Sal Allaahu Alaiyhi wa Sallam) said:
        “Shall I not tell you of something that is better than fasting, prayer and charity?”
        They said: Yes.
        He said: “Reconciling between two people, for the corruption of that which is between the hearts is the shaver (destroyer). It is the shaver, and I do not say that it shaves hair, rather that it shaves RELIGIOUS COMMITMENT.”
        Their only rejoinder is : "We are responsible for our deeds and you for yours .we have no ill will against you we wish you well and that is why we wish you to know of the Knowledge we have received, after that Knowledge you cannot expect us to go back to the Ignorance which we have left.
        HOPE MY STAND IS CLEAR FOR ALL IN THIS FORUM-
        REGARDS

        • Wa Alaikum Salaam Warahmatullahi Wabarakaatuh Brother ALI YOUSUFF,

          Don't worry Brother. As the scholars differ in matters, the followers differ too. Both of us are students of knowledge. I personally like to look at matters from both sides, and then follow wherever I see the wisdom. I do not celebrate milaad (Alhamdulillah, I was born and raised in a good Sunni family, and I live in a Sunni country currently, Alhamdulillah), yet I see wisdom regarding the Ijtihad of Imam As-Suyuti and others who gave guidance on how it should be done, instead of rejecting it entirely. The wisdom is that the people's heart is attached to it already, and the best way to guide them is to talk to them in their own language (this is what I think could help unite the Ummah, InshaAllah). Though you are free to disagree with me, as long as it's done in a mature way.

          Also, I realized you were so concerned about the word "rejoicing", but I meant it's the type of "love/happiness/feelings" that lead the Prophet (s.a.w.s) to fast on his own birthday, as it's the same love that leads people to fast on his birth day or to gather and talk about his life. So the love for his birth day is sunnah, but the celebration is the bid'ah. So here, it would depend on what you do with the love. If you use it to fast on his birth days (which is sunnah upon sunnah), learn/read about his life, you are on the safe side. If you gather people and remind each other about him, is also a good thing (it's the same love), provided that you abstain from haram acts.

          Actually, I stepped out because I am at the moment very busy with some tasks, and this isn't the right time for discussing. InshaAllah, we could find another chance and discuss it again for the sake of increasing in knowledge, while we give the scholars the respect they deserve, InshaAllah.

          Once again Brother, JazakAllahu Khair al-jaza for your kind patience and nice debate.

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