I am Christian and want to be his second wife; is it possible?
Assalamualaikum!
Im a christian catholic, and i have an almost 3 years boyfriend, he is a kurdistani and a muslim man..
He have a wife, though he wants to marry me still.. some of his friends knows about us but his wife and his family doesn't know, only his 1 brother.
i believed that a muslim man can marry again as long as he can able to give his obligations to both equally. and 1 thing also, he is having a sexual problem since the wife dont want to give the needs of her husband. he said he is not happy with his wife, but he dont want to have divorce with his wife for they have kids..
he said he loves me so much and he very happy.. we are not living together, but we are planning to get married in philippines when i go home for he wants to go with me there.
is it possible for us? if yes what are needed for us to have our marriege..by the way,we are are not having issues about religions, since he dont want me to convert to islam if my reason is him or is because of love or marriage..he said it should be from a heart. he respects my religion and i respect islam, and i am not closing my heart in having islam as my religion.
thank you in advance. may Allah bless us all.
Nech15
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Assalamoalaikum,
Its delightful to hear that you are open to the prospect of joining Islam. Alhamdulillah. Maybe this man is the path from which you will enter the deen. May Allah guide you to the light and open up the path of the true deen to you, Insha Allah.
Yes sister it is possible to marry this man even before conversion. A Muslim man is allowed to marry a chaste Christian and is also allowed a second wife if he treats them fairly.
Know that if this man comes from a monogamous culture, then he is required to seek his first wife's consent before marrying you. If that is not the case about his cultural background then he does not need her consent.
Your marriage will be valid regardless of whether his first wife gives permission or not. But that doesn't mean you become inconsiderate to another woman's feelings.
Agreed all opinions and advices are true and correct but at the mean time every body have to marry in his/her community or country due to upcoming challenges.its so difficult to be remain loyal for long time inspite of previous kids and wife existence.The human psychology is not matching .i think both have to rework and rethink Upon their decision.There between both many differences like religion, tounge,cultural,bhavior thinking so and so....
Yes it is possible but only if you have the first wife's consent. (If he is indeed from a monogamous culture).
Though in Shariah there is no evidence that the first wife's permission is a prerequisite for another marriage, Nevertheless it is a requirement in Islam that a man seek his first wife's consent for another marriage if he comes from a monogamous culture. That is because in Fiqh your cultural norms are part of your marriage contract by default as long as it is not haram. The Prophet(SAW) said that the conditions most worthy to fulfill are those which make your wife legal for you.
Speaking from a jurisprudential standpoint, traditions of the people do have an effect on Islamic rulings and do affect people's contracts and worldly dealings in general as long as they do not contradict the rules of Shari`ah.
In Islamic law, the rule goes that what is default according to tradition is a default condition in the contract. This means that if the tradition of the people (or perhaps the agreement of the couple before marriage) indicates that the man will not marry any other women, then it goes as a "legal condition" in the marriage contract that is abiding to that man, unless his wife (or perhaps a judge in certain cases) willfully allows this default to change.
Therefore, if the tradition of the husband and wife view monogamy as the normal and default, then they should apply it, because what is a default according to tradition is a default condition in the contract.
Note: The husband does not sin for taking a second wife. The marriage with another woman is valid. But he violates Shariah and becomes a faasiq [transgressor] for not fulfilling the stipulations of his marriage.
So if the couple is from a monogamous culture, the husband must seek his wife's consent should he choose to engage in polygamy.
You can see this on the Fatwa on askthescholar.com by Sheikh Ahmed Kutty:
http://askthescholar.com/question-details.aspx?qstID=2016
http://askthescholar.com/question-details.aspx?qstID=2258
Question: Salamu aleykom Shiekh Ahmad Thank you for your efforts to spread the knowledge.I have small question about polygamy. Is is required for husband to have his first wife permission to marry second time?Jazaka Allah
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If you married your wife in a culture where monogamy was the norm, and you never mentioned to her about your option to marry a second wife, then you owe it to her to seek her permission to do so. For as the Prophet (peace be upon him) taught us, we are bound by the terms of our marriage contracts. Since there is no reason to limit such terms to the written ones, they should also include those which are simply assumed or taken for granted in a particular milieu or society. If, therefore, your wife would not have married you--if she had the prior knowledge that you would exercise the option to take a second wife-- then it was a tacit agreement you had agreed to with her; as such you are bound by it.
http://askthescholar.com/question-details.aspx?qstID=2567
Moreover, we are also bound by the terms of our marriage contracts. In a milieu like ours where monogamy is the norm, one needs to get the permission of his first wife to marry another; for she had married him with the tacit understanding that she would be the only wife he will be having. So unless such an option had already been stipulated in the contract, he is not justified in marrying a second wife without her permission.
He does not need her permission. She (the first wife) has no authority to make haram what is halal for him.
Who is she to stop her husband from practising a Sunnah of the beloved Rasool (SAW)?
Polygamy is not a Sunnah.
The Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) was allowd to have more than four wives. This is not allowed for other Muslim men. Thus, emulating the Prophet in this regard is not a Sunnah.
This definition demonstrates that the Sunnah according to the Salaf has not been as understood and defined similarly to most of the recent scholars who defined it to mean:"The acts, the sayings and the silent approvals of the Prophet". This recent definition is often found in recent fiqh scholars books. The interesting part of this broad definition of recent scholars is that it is the exact definition of "The Hadeeth that is related to the Prophet" according to scholars of Hadeeth [See: Tadreeb al-Rawi by al-Syouti: 1/156, al-Nuzha by al-Hafith: 52]. This confusion of terminology can be cleared out when we know that scholars of Fiqh including the recent ones identify The Sunnah to be either obligatory or recommended. al-Subki defined the Sunnah to be: "The Sunnah in Istlaah (religious context) means: what have been known as obligatory or preferable from the saying of the Prophet" [al-ibhaaj fi sharh al-minhaaj: 1/36]
This definition is actually an explicit statement to explain the general broad definition of Sunnah that has been adopted by recent scholars; Meaning: Any act of the Prophet, requires a supportive saying from the Prophet to show the virtue of such act so it becomes a Sunnah. This outline that the Salaf and scholars only recognized ceratin acts and sayings of the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم) to be Sunnah in the context of religion that they are preferable for others to act upon.
1) al-Tufail reported: I asked Ibn Abbas (رضي الله عنهما): your people claim that Allah's Messenger (صلى الله عليه وسلم) walked proudly while moving the shoulders (Ramal) during his Tawaf and that such act is Sunnah. Ibn Abbas replied: They said the truth but they mistakened. I said: what does that mean? He replied: Indeed, he did that but that is not a Sunnah; Quraish said at the time of Hudaybiya treaty let Muhammad and his companions die from Naghaf [i.e. ants that live in camels noses]. Then they signed the truce and agreed that Muslims come next year and stay at Mecca for three days. So, Muslims came and the Prophet said to his companions: Do "raml" thrice while you are performing Tawaf. I [i.e. al-Tufail] said: Your people claim that the Prophet did the Tawaf between the Safaa and Marwa while riding his camel and that is (i.e. tawaf while riding) a Sunnah. He replied: They said the truth but they mistakned. So I said: what do you mean with that? He answered: "Indeed, the Prophet did Tawaf while riding his camel and they are mistakend because that is not a Sunnah; people used to stay around the Prophet so he was riding his camel so they can hear him and see his position while they do not push him"
[ Sunan Abi Dawd: 1885] and [Musnad Ahmad:5/179].
The hadeeth is authentic and was classified so by sh. al-albani and Ahmad shakir.
The hadeeth as can be noted showed two acts of the Prophet. However, Ibn Abbas denied that such acts to be Sunnah although he acknowledged them being performed by the Prophet.
The reason why he denied such acts to be Sunnah was because he knew that such acts that the Prophet did were not for a religious purpose or as a means to get closer to Allah. Ibn Abbas actually saw in these acts to be ordinary wordly acts (i.e. riding so that others can hear and raml to tease disbelievers)
The companions and scholars differentiated between the acts of the Prophet (صلى الله عليه وسلم). They viewed acts that are performed on religious basis to get one closer to Allah as Sunnah while other acts that are done for other reasons as general acts.
Sunan Mua'kadda: These are Sunan that we are encouraged to do and have been continously acted upon by the Prophet such like the Sunnah of the fajr.
Sunan Ghair Mu'akdda: These are Sunan that we are encouraged to do due its mentioned rewards, however, were not performed regularly by the Prophet such like the Sunnah before Asr.
Sunan A'daat: These are habits and customs that no texts states a virtue or reward for them. Also, no texts encourage acting upon them. This is like clothes, walking, talking and etc.
Based on that, we know that Sunnah can be divided to the following categories according to its rulings:
Sunan Wajiba (obligatory): It is every command of the Prophet that cannot be found any other text prove that such command was said to mean preferable. Such like: "do not backbite eachother".
Sunan Mustahabba: (preferable): It is every command of the Prophet that have another proof that shows the command came to mean preferable. Such like: " Pray as you see me pray" then in another hadeeth only certain acts were mentioned so that one's Salaat can be accepted"
Sunan Mubahaa( Permissible): These are acts that no texts happen to exist and shows a virtue for or are not acted upon based on religious purposes eg; slavery, polygamy etc.
Any act that has no text from the Prophet to show it is recommended then it cannot be considered Sunnah in its religious context. Yet, it can be considered Sunnah in its lingual definition. But according to the lingual definition, buying slaves and having only one wife (Since the Prophet was monogamous for the first half of his Prophethood) would be a Sunnah too if one is to believe polygamy is a Sunnah in and of itself.
There is no textual evidence that recommends polygamy. Therefore you can't call it a Sunnah. Its no more a Sunnah than slavery is, which is what the Prophet and his companions practised.
They kept slaves and bought slaves. This means it's halal, but it's not a Sunnah. On the other hand they would free slaves and treat them well too. This is a Sunnah because the Prophet encouraged freeing them and spoke about the virtues of treating them well. It's a recommendation from the Prophet himself.
Quite similarly polygyny (if all conditions are met) is halal, but it's certainly not a Sunnah. On the other hand getting married at least once was highly encouraged, because getting married itself is a Sunnah. There are numerous hadiths which extol th virtues of getting married at least once, but no Hadiths encouraging multiple marriages.
Not everything that the Prophet and his companions did is a Sunnah. The Prophet was clear on that when he clearly said that "Marriage is my Sunnah" when he interacted with some single Sahaba who once came to his house and promised him that they will never get married.
There is just no record of the Prophet ever encouraging a married Sahabi to remarry. He may not have discouraged anyone, but he certainly did not encourage anyone either.
And many of the Sahaba were actually monogamous, yet he never encouraged any married Sahaba to get married again.
His emphasis was rather placed on the single Sahaba to get them married so as to protect their chastity, where he clearly states that "Marriage is my Sunnah".
The emphasis was on getting married at least once, polygamy does not appear in any of the Prophet's recommendations.
This is why my scholars say that the first marriage is sunnah by default as the first marriage is deen and the second, third and fourth marriages are Dunya (A collection of worldly desires).
When one marries he/she completes half their deen. But getting married again and again can't renew the completion of half the deen again and again.
Omal Al Jamal,
I don't understand why you said it is based on 'Urf (as Umm Reza) and then you yourself opposed it (as Omal Al Jamal) and again said it is based on 'Urf (as Shumaila).
Please do not create a confusion. And this ruling depending on 'Urf is not something I am aware of. If you quote a renowned scholar among those of Ahlus Sunnah, it will be better. Because all the scholars I know have stated that no permission is required in any case, but it is better as a part of good manners to do so. Wallahu A'lam.
Abu Abdul Bari
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
In most non-Muslim countries it is illegal to marry more than one woman. It is illegal to have multiple wives and it is possible that if a man married more than one woman, he could face legal charges from the first wife. Considering that, it would be wise if a man were to take a second wife by consulting with his first wife.
Recently, I have seen a case of this in the community where a man did marry a second wife. He had an affair with her FIRST, then married her. The details are complicated, but in the aftermath, the first wife is divorcing her husband and in all the legal papers, his 2nd wife is referred to as "common-law" or "girlfriend", etc and one of her reasons for divorce is his affair with this 2nd woman. It has been quite demeaning to be called girlfriend, I think, when you are a wife. The 2nd wife also has a child and her child is considered to be out of wedlock. Imagining the impact of this on the child when he is older is quite disturbing.
So, yes, he doesn't need permission for a second wife, BUT it would be wise to consider the feelings of the first wife and if you want to avoid dealing with courts potentially. Maybe we don't have to call it permission, but at least inform the first wife. For the first wife to find out through a third party is quite painful and hurtful.
I would also like to point out that it is so disrespectful for this man to share his PERSONAL sex life with a woman for whom he is a non-Mahram to. Why does she know that he is having sexual problems with his current wife? And also, should a husband share his bedroom secrets with another wife (or in this case, a woman who isn't a wife!)?
As Muslims, we believe that men can have more than 1 wife, upto a limit of 4. There is no argument there. But at least men should not conduct a haram relationship FIRST and then take another wife. They should be approaching women according to the laws of Islam. Funny, how religion doesn't matter to this man, but he wants to use religion to marry more than one. I find that hypocritical.
To the OP,
yes, he can marry you. you dont need to become a Muslim, but it would be better that you sincerely accept Islam.
I do not understand why you want to do this though - From what you wrote, and I may be wrong, it seems he wants to marry you for sex. He should never have discussed these things with you.
I think you need to study Islam. I hope that you accept Islam inshaAllah. As for marrying this man, he has approached you in the wrong way. He could meet another woman after you, the way he met you and then share your secrets about your intimate relations with her (if you don't satisfy his needs - btw, I wonder how he knows if you will satisfy his needs?) and marry her too. He shouldn't have done that.
All the best to you, inshaAllah, I hope you have a better understanding.
Assalamu Alaikum,
good point! How and why in the world a married man will go and discuss his bed matters with a stranger, another woman? All it shows the lack of respect for the wife. I hope the first wife will kick this dirt bag out of her life.
I wonder how all the polygamous people manage to take care of all the wives. If they are following sunnah, aren't they supposed to be responsible for all the needs of their wives?
Anyhow, God bless them if they really can take care of more than one wife.
Ok, now my answer. This man, I guess, whenever he finds something faulty with his wife, he will look somewhere else to find and new wife. So, if you do not mind him taking you as a second wife, I hope you will not mind when he takes wife number 3 and wife number 4, for whatever reason.
Be careful about men/women who speak negative things about their partners to get what they want.
Wishing you the best,
Reader
Hello Nech,
You are allowed to marry him as a Christian, but it will be best if you see the options of becoming a Muslim and accept Islam after you are convinced that Islam is the true religion.
A man can have more than one wives if he can deal with them justly and the permission of the already married wife is not required in order to marry another. But it is better to take her approval.
And also remember that it is difficult to spend life in a polygamy. You will face constant jealousy from his first wife and you may not like it. So do not marry him if you think you will not be able to face it.
For the betterment of your hereafter, I urge you to learn about Islam and accept Allah and your Lord and Muhammad peace be upon him as your guide, Allah's Final Messenger, who came after Jesus peace be upon him.
May Allah Help you in this.
Abu Abdul Bari
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
she will not only face jealousy.. she may be experiencing jealousy too
As you have been here
I would like to tell you about Islam
We Muslims worship Allah - the only one GOD who created you and me and all that exists.
The GOD of Adam, Noah , Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Muhammed (peace be upon them) and all.
Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“O mankind! Worship your Lord (Allaah), Who has created you and those before you so that you may become al-muttaqoon (the pious).” [al-Baqarah 2:21]
why did Jesus(peace be upon him) the son of Mary (may Allah be pleased with her) came to this earth?
Jesus came to teach people about ALLAH. He came to teach people to worship none but ALLAH alone without associating any partners with HIM.
Allah says
“And I (Allah) created not the jinn and mankind except that they should worship Me (Alone)”
{Quran 51:56}
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I find it quite upsetting that a woman has to share her husband with another woman unwillingly.. I don't seem to understand why some people think It's okay not to ask for a their wives consent.. It's just not fair
Assalaamualaikam
Polygamy is a very emotive topic, but due to this there has been a lot of discussion and studying of it.
It is not compulsory and women can stipulate that they will not accept being in a polygamous relationship. We are also advised that we are subject to the laws of our country of residence so long as they do not go against Islam.
By insisting upon marriage and the formalising of relationships, all parties are able to be clear about their rights and responsibilities and avoid the uncertainty and instability of illicit affairs and flings.
Sometimes, we encounter issues and guidance in Islam which we do not understand. When this happens, we should recognise that Allah knows best, and take the opportunity to further our own knowledge of Islam.
Midnightmoon
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Sister, it is not unfair. Because Islam is based on justice and fairness. If it was really unfair, it would not have been a part of Islam.
We have had many diacussions on polygamy on other posts. You can refer to them in sha Allah.
Abu Abdul Bari
IslamicAnswers.com Editor
@nazo it is not just upsetting but its actually confusing to me as i see so many young muslim men marrying christian ladys saying its ok to marry an ahle kitab, but r they truly ahle kitab(brothers of the book). Firstly their bible has innumerable versions and the the new testament and the old and we know how they heavily contradict eachother. where is injeel? all we see is a new man made book called bible which is seriously flawed and confusing to most christians themselves.
secondly they r not even monotheists. they worship jesus pbuh and ofcourse we know how much 'trinity' has confused the world as well.
lastly the christians today eat pork even though it is prohibited dring alchohol even though it is prohibited and commit fornication even though that is prohibited. Most of them make babies coz they want to not cause they care of abortion is prohibited or not, and very matter of factly talk about it showing no guilt whatsoever.
No offence to the poster but i dont think even if she converted to islam she will do that for her faith in islam or anything it will just hapn so she could b recognized by his social circle. if she wants to convert to islam then she needs to dump this guy first coz he is not a practicing muslim anyways. coming to the topic of his wife
@apple green-
Ahl al-Kitaab means the People of the Book not brothers of the book.
you need to slow down sister. Allah knows best what you wrote is right or wrong.
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apple green, all the things you described were also happening at the time of the revelation of the Quran, and yet Allah still described them as Ahl-al-Kitab. So yes, it is allowed to marry a chaste Christian or Jewish woman, even though their beliefs and practices are deviant.
Wael
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Assalamu alaikum,
Its not that confusing n upsetting coz ALLAH allowed that and Allah knws best. Ya christians belief is very different but a lot of them are not educated about there religion coz they only born in christian family n they follow wat there parents worshipping. But if a christian studies islam n understand n accept it mostly likely they are better than most born muslim nowadays.
You have to slow down a bit sister.
And about converting in islam not all are in the heart at first but it grows as time goes by. Im just saying in my own experience.
And to sis nech,
If u think u can live a life of a second wife then go with wat u really want. And i knw we pilipino are consirate people so i hope u consider to just let the first wife knw about it.
And Insha Allah, Allah will guide u to the right path. Learn n study Islam n i want to tell u something if u want to be a good person dont look at other people. I learn islam by not looking at the muslims , i learn it by looking at my own self n wat i want to become in my hereafter.
first of all congratulations and welcome to the faith.
dont take my comment personally. im neither upset nor intend to upset any1 neither christians nor ex christians. mayb u didnt read my comment well. its not about non practicing christians or non practicing muslims, its rather about practicing muslims and practicing christians. if u r aware of the concept of ahl al kitab u will understand. my concerns if any in this regard are only natural as a muslim who perhaps might have to answer some tricky questions when my son grows up. so sit back and relax and read on. if we r lucky then hopefully we'll get somewhere with this.
Assalamualaikum
whether the wife fulfills her husbands need or not. this. statement is a proof enough to indicate his intention for showing interest in the lady. if u respect urself enough plz make sure u marry some1 who loves u and respects u not coz his wife cant satisfy him in bed. this btw is a very common lie most married men tell their girlfriends and mistresses. it works all the time and it boosts her ego and makes her feel wantesd and important and complete and what not so just dont fall for it. study islam. its a beautiful religion and plz cut all ties with this man.
I agree, dont you find it terrible that this cheating on his wife with you? Perhaps you need to meet his first wife before running off to marry this man. Determine how much damage your (so far) haram relationship has done to the first wife, and then think about if you want to continue the relationship. Remember that polygamy is not a normal marraige full of love and happiness unless all parties involved love eachother. And also keep in mind that if he could cheat on his first wife so easily for something so small as sexual wants, then he could very well turn around and cheat on both of you. As was advised before sister, study Islam and dont let yourself becomea sex object.
@apple green
Q: Is it necessary that a wife be of the same faith of her husband who is a Muslim?
A: This needs some explanation. If the husband is a Muslim and the woman is from the People of the Book (i.e. A Christian or Jew) and chaste, there is no harm on variance of beliefs for it is permissible for a Muslim man to marry a woman from the People of the Book whether the Jews or Christians as Allah permitted this.
Allah (Exalted be He) says: Made lawful to you this day are At-Tayyibât [all kinds of Halâl (lawful) foods, which Allâh has made lawful (meat of slaughtered eatable animals, milk products, fats, vegetables and fruits)]. The food (slaughtered cattle, eatable animals) of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) is lawful to you and yours is lawful to them. (Lawful to you in marriage) are chaste women from the believers and chaste women from those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) before your time when you have given their due Mahr (bridal-money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage), desiring chastity (i.e. taking them in legal wedlock) not committing illegal sexual intercourse, nor taking them as girl-friends.
If a Muslim proposes to a woman from the People of the Book and she is known for her chastity and marries her, there is no harm in this.
(Part No. 28; Page No. 110)
If she is a disbeliever from other than the Jews and Christians, it is not allowable to marry her for Allah permitted for Muslims only women from the People of the Book.
Allah says in another Ayah (Qur'anic verse): And do not marry Al-Mushrikât (idolatresses, etc.) till they believe (worship Allâh Alone). --- And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al-Mushrikûn till they believe (in Allâh Alone) This is in Surah-Al-Baqarah and He says in Surah-Al-Mumtahanah: They are not lawful (wives) for the disbelievers nor are the disbelievers lawful (husbands) for them.
The basic ruling is that it is not permissible for a Muslim man to marry a disbelieving woman nor is it allowable for a Muslim woman to marry a non-Muslim. Both husband and wife should be of the same faith except in the case of a Muslim man and a woman from the People of the Book, provided that she is chaste. If a woman from the People of the book is known to be chaste, there is no harm to marry her for Allah legislated this in Surah-Al-Ma'idah;
however, other non-Muslim women are not eligible for marriage, such as Buddhists, pagans, communists, etc. On the other hand, a Muslim woman is in no way permitted to marry a non-Muslim. The exclusion of the rule of similar faith is in only in the case of non-Muslim women marrying Muslim men.
(Part No. 28; Page No. 111)
A Muslim man is allowed to marry a woman from the People of the Book while a female Muslim is only permitted to marry a Muslim man. Allah (Exalted and Glorified be He) says: (They are not lawful (wives) for the disbelievers nor are the disbelievers lawful (husbands) for them. )
(And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al-Mushrikûn )
He means not to marry them till they believe in Islam.
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brother Abdullah jazak allah khair for taking so much effort however i dont think u understood what i meant. Astagfirullah i dont doubt what was made permissible by quran and our prophet s.a.w
Say for example u were proposed marriage by a family of some woman who said they were muslims but indulged in activities that indicated their preference for shirk will u marry her just because they said they were muslims and believed in one God and quran and sunnah? i dont think so.
similarly my point was do Ahle baith still exist? Do the followers of isa a.s still exist? is the bible or the different kinds of bibles that we c today can b refered to as injeel. r the christians today monotheist? do the christian women believe in covering themselves as the women of ahle baith did? Although the christians dont believe in prophet muhammed pbuh, do they respect him as they did b4? do christians today believe in chastity or refrain from basic prohibited things like pork and alchohol? so if she cooked something like that in a practicing muslim's house should he tolerate it?
my basic question is brother if they exist somewhere then where r they? how can we identify them?
sorry for the typo i meant ahley kitab not ahley baith. these termologies r a bit confusing for me so excuse me.